[modeleng] Re: Undersea Ferroequinology

Bede,

I saw photos of the two locomotives a couple of years back.  It is amazing 
that they apparently slid off the deck of a sailing ship and landed so 
perfectly upright and close to each other.  I wish the web site had photos 
of the locos rather than the tanks they built to contain the parts as they 
recover them.  When the Hawley's dug up the steamboat "Arabia" out of a 
Kansas cornfield a few years back, they submerged the parts in a large 
plastic lined pit they dug in Kansas City, Missouri until they could find 
out how to conserve them.  They tried to get professional help on proper 
conservation, but had no luck from the academic community.  The "experts" 
were pi**ed off because they weren't the ones who spent the time and money 
to locate the boat and then dig it out.  The Hawley family did all the work 
without any grant monies and have built a wonderful museum in KC, MO where 
you can see everything.  Oh, the "experts" suggested that the Arabia be 
covered back up so they could be the ones to dig it out!!!

Jesse in cold, frozen Troy, TN USA

: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:12 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Undersea Ferroequinology
This from an acquaintance, many of you may know about these engines, but 
it's new to me"

"I was watching the History Channel tonight and must say their current Deep 
Sea Detectives episode really impressed me. You must catch this one on their 
reruns. It is about the two steam engines discovered side by side off of the 
coast of NJ. They are very, very rare 2-2-2 configs confirmed as built in 
1851 standing upright in the sand perfectly parallel and 10' apart. Prior to 
this find, there was only one known existing example of a Pioneer. But, the 
submerged locos are giants compared to the prior one known example. There 
simply is no known prototype. They were (are?) a previously unknown 
evolutionary branch in locomotive engineering that died with their sinking. 
The film has interviews on board with the man who found these great pieces, 
Captain Paul Halpern. Mike and I have dove with him on that very dive boat 
many times. I can pick out my dive station in the film. Truly a fascinating 
film that brought together two great areas of interest: sub-marine 
archaeology and live steam."

I found a related .pdf here:

www.njmt.org/docs/projects/SLP2007update.pdf

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