[modeleng] Re: TRIO TS530S HF Transceiver
- From: "kenny macdougall" <kenny.macdougall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:58:20 +0100
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for all that useful information, Alan has also been very
helpful.
Regards
Kenny
Skye
----- Original Message -----
From: "peter chadwick" <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:16 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: TRIO TS530S HF Transceiver
> The problem with a dipole is that it basically for one band only, although
> a dipole for 7 MHz can be used on 3 times that i.e. 21 MHz. For a starting
> set up, especially as you'll only be listening, I would use a random
> length of wire of any length you can get - 80 odd feet always worked well
> for me - and fed via an antenna tuner. The tuner needs an earth, the best
> you can do - not just a bit of wire in the ground, although I've worked
> very succesfully with a water pipe earth. Some 4 foot lengths of copper
> pipe, driven in about 6 feet apart and conencted by the heaviest gauge
> copper wire you can get/afford, but not braid.
>
> Probably the simplest tuner (unless you make your own) is the Z match.
> Examples aren't made any more but are frequently available on E bay as the
> KW E-Z match, the KW107 and the KW109. Also worth the joining the KW
> Radios list (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KW_Radios/) - such things
> appear there, too. Can be anything up to £100, depending on model. The Z
> match is easier to tune than the more popular T match such as made by MFJ
> and others in the US. On the other hand, for years I used a home made
> tuner for which I admittedly scrounged the coil and the piece of
> floorboard it was all built on, but the total cost was about one shilling
> after buying stuff in the local club junk sale, and it did everything that
> a expensive commercial one would do, except look pretty. Of course, you
> could build one - it's not difficult once you have the capacitors,
> especially if you have any machinery available. That was 1969, so it would
> cost rather more now!
> If getting a good earth isn't possible, especially with a Z match tuner,
> you can use what is called a 'W3EDP antenna' adfter the inventor. This has
> 83 feet of wire on one side of the tuner, and other side a
> 'counterpoise' - a piece of insulated wire run out, low down, not
> necessarily even in a straight line, and of differing lengths for each
> band.
> I'd suggest you get the books from RSGB to getting the amateur licence -
> there's a book for each class. Also the older RSGB Radio Communication
> Handbooks, especially the ones from the 1970s are a bit better on
> antennas, and, I feel, on basics. Likewise the older ARRL (American Radio
> Relay League) handbooks. The RSGB books 'HF Antennas for all locations'
> by Moxon, and the 'HF antenna collection' by Davidare useful, too. The
> library should be able to get them.
> The only commercial antennas I've ever had were a trap vertcial which was
> useless, and Yagi (beam) antennas. All the others are home brew.
> Peter G3RZP
>
>
>
> =======================================Message Received: Apr 28 2012,
> 07:56 AM
> From: "kenny macdougall"
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: TRIO TS530S HF Transceiver
>
>
> Hi Hams,
> I am getting frustrated about all the different types off antennas, would
> this do for my rig.
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item0786525204
> Kenny
> Skye
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stepney"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:27 PM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: TRIO TS530S HF Transceiver
>
>
>> Kenny,
>> http://www.ac6v.com/antprojects.htm
>> is one place to start.
>>
>> However, one of the simplest and most efficieint aerials is 132ft of
>> wire, either spliy into two 66ft legths, and the centre connected to the
>> rig, or else the entire length connected at one end.
>> An earth is important, a copper rod (a piecce of tube works well)
>> hammered into the ground.
>>
>> Alan
>> On 04/04/2012 16:34, kenny macdougall wrote:
>>> Alan,
>>> Where do i start, sounds a bit complicated to me, can you please point
>>> me
>>> in
>>> the right direction.
>>> Kenny
>>>
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