At 09:10 PM 10/8/05 +0800, you wrote: >But what I need, as I'm in the process of drawing it up, is a meths burner >that is A/ self pressurising/vaporising; and B/ A multiholed bar type of >burner (like a rectangular gas camping stove burner instead of a ring only >smaller.....). - Phill Phill, As Jem will no doubt confirm, meths is the fuel of choice for most Ga1 live steamers in the UK although in the USA butane, or a butane/propane mix such as camp stoive fuel, is preferred as it's purceived to be more reliable (ie less fiddley) than meths. Here the road splits yet again. 98% of Ga1 loco meths sytems are now drip-feed, or "chicken-feed" as it's sometimes known in the US, with a gentleman named Dick Moger, a G1MRA director, in Kent, being one of the last proponents of pressurized feed meths systems. His co-design of "Kaye" published in ME some years ago, and IIRC a Merchant Navy design "Wolf of Baddenoch" (sp) before that, had pressure feed systems I believe. The fuel bunker of a typical traction engine, by its size and location, would make an excellent drip feed tank. In gas fueled models there are two popular and preferred options, a torch tip or "poker" burner, or a radiant ceramic burner, which is gaining quickly in popularity. In any case fuel & firing systems for small scale models have taken great leaps in creativeness and efficiency in the last five years so no doubt something can be found to fill the bill. I've got to dash to a meeting now but I'll be glad to look up specific references later if you need them. Regards, Harry MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.