[modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was RE: Re: Steam Boats

How about the 3 cylinder radial design that has been published under the name 
of "Cygnet"(?)  It looks like by using a simple jack shaft that it would have 
enough muscle to drive a bike.

Al


--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Phill Smith <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Phill Smith <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was RE: Re: Steam Boats
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 10:47 PM
> Chris,
> 
> I doubt that a turbine would give you enough torque to be
> able to move your 
> bike, even geared right down 1000:1, unless it is quite
> large. You would 
> then have problems with supplying it with steam. Turbines
> are NOT efficient 
> in small sizes. Blade fitting and manufacture is the main
> problem, and they 
> must be multi stage to be able to gain something resembling
> efficiency. The 
> efficiency of the Tesla turbine is even less in small
> sizes.
> 
> You may be able to fit it all into a large tricicle......
> 
> I was thinking along the lines of a Doble type of boiler.
> It's flash steam, 
> but far more efficient than any others I have seen the
> designs of. A bit 
> more complex to make, but far safer for the rider and
> bystanders. But you 
> would need a motorcycle battery (or similar size) to run
> the blower. It's 
> not hard to set up, but a bit of fiddling around to set up.
> With modern 
> electronics, you could really take control of your boiler
> so it is fully 
> automatic, and the controls would be easy to hide.
> 
> Just my 0.8p worth.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Crosskey"
> <chris.crosskey@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:57 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was RE: Re:
> Steam Boats
> 
> 
> >I was going to go for flash steam (or possibly water
> tube) but using a
> > tesla turbine..... I've a piece of 3/4" wall
> thickness 9" ally tube
> > (about a foot of it) that needs a job..... get some
> stainless 14 gauge
> > for the sheaf and a bunch of gearing... run it on a
> self-pressurising
> > burner that uses veg oil as fuel...... If I built the
> boat instead then
> > it'd still be a tesla (I want to build a tesla)
> but with more gearing,
> > reversible and with a way of decoupling the paddles
> from each other so
> > one could be reversed....
> >
> > chrisc
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Phill Smith
> >> Sent: 23 January 2009 13:37
> >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was
> RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >>
> >> I like the sound of the steamcycle!!!! That would
> be good to see.....
> >> Hmmm... You've got me thinking now..... Water
> tube boiler, oil fired,
> > 6V
> >> battery to operate the controls, double acting
> twin cylinder engine
> > (nice
> >> and small but smooth torque.....
> >>
> >> I had better not tell my oldest boys about this
> idea, otherwise my
> >> pressent
> >> projects will be put on hold for a while......
> Actually they would ALL
> >> want
> >> one, so I would be unlikely to get ANYTHING done
> for the next 10
> >> years!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Phill.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Chris Crosskey"
> <chris.crosskey@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:15 PM
> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was
> RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >>
> >>
> >> > Many thanks for the replies, I will
> investigate further.... I will
> > soon
> >> > be moving into a place where I will have a
> lot more space and I was
> >> > looking for something to fill it with...
> I'd got it down to either a
> >> > paddle-steam boat somewhere between a large
> canoe and a small launch
> > in
> >> > size or else a steam motorcycle, not a
> steam-assisted bicycle like
> > the
> >> > Hope though (lovely though they are)......
> >> >
> >> > chrisc
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >> On Behalf Of Wilfried Vermeiren
> >> >> Sent: 22 January 2009 14:54
> >> >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally
> Pally, was RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> Unfortunally I had to let go the Ally
> Pally exhibition but I had a
> >> > look
> >> >> trough the steamboat register 7th edition
> and they list 5 steam
> >> > launches
> >> >> with side or rear paddle drive. I also
> had a look at pictures taken
> > by
> >> > me
> >> >> at
> >> >> the Henley traditional boat rally and
> came up with a few more
> >> > examples.
> >> >> if you are interested I can scan / mail
> the pictures.
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Wilfried Vermeiren
> >> >> http://users.skynet.be/modelbouw.wilfried
> >> >>
> >> >>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> >> Van: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >> Namens Chris Crosskey
> >> >> Verzonden: donderdag 22 januari 2009 9:56
> >> >> Aan: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Onderwerp: [modeleng] Seen at Ally Pally,
> was RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >> >>
> >> >> A bit of a question for those at the Ally
> Pally ME show...
> >> >>
> >> >> The full scale steam boat folks were
> there as usual and I noticed
> > some
> >> >> pictures on their stand of a very small
> side-paddle steam
> >> >> launch.....unfortunately I was a bit
> knackered and in a hurry
> > anyway
> >> > so
> >> >> didn't find out what it was and
> whether there is a design for it or
> >> >> indeed anything. Does anyone else recall
> the picture in question
> > And
> >> >> know anything more about it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris Crosskey
> >> >>
> >> >>
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