[modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was RE: Re: Steam Boats

TEL, I agree!  But wouldn't that be a sight to behold on a commercial Tricycle 
with the flash generator mounted on the rear step?  But where would a passenger 
stand?  Ah---the delights of day dreaming!!  LOL!

Al


--- On Sun, 1/25/09, TEL <tel47@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: TEL <tel47@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was RE: Re: Steam Boats
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 5:47 PM
> A double sized Cygnet might Al, the original would be a bit
> light with 
> it's 5/8" bores.
> Allen Messer wrote:
> > How about the 3 cylinder radial design that has been
> published under the name of "Cygnet"(?)  It looks
> like by using a simple jack shaft that it would have enough
> muscle to drive a bike.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/24/09, Phill Smith
> <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Phill Smith
> <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was
> RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 10:47 PM
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> I doubt that a turbine would give you enough
> torque to be
> >> able to move your 
> >> bike, even geared right down 1000:1, unless it is
> quite
> >> large. You would 
> >> then have problems with supplying it with steam.
> Turbines
> >> are NOT efficient 
> >> in small sizes. Blade fitting and manufacture is
> the main
> >> problem, and they 
> >> must be multi stage to be able to gain something
> resembling
> >> efficiency. The 
> >> efficiency of the Tesla turbine is even less in
> small
> >> sizes.
> >>
> >> You may be able to fit it all into a large
> tricicle......
> >>
> >> I was thinking along the lines of a Doble type of
> boiler.
> >> It's flash steam, 
> >> but far more efficient than any others I have seen
> the
> >> designs of. A bit 
> >> more complex to make, but far safer for the rider
> and
> >> bystanders. But you 
> >> would need a motorcycle battery (or similar size)
> to run
> >> the blower. It's 
> >> not hard to set up, but a bit of fiddling around
> to set up.
> >> With modern 
> >> electronics, you could really take control of your
> boiler
> >> so it is fully 
> >> automatic, and the controls would be easy to hide.
> >>
> >> Just my 0.8p worth.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Phill.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Chris Crosskey"
> >> <chris.crosskey@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:57 AM
> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally Pally, was
> RE: Re:
> >> Steam Boats
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> I was going to go for flash steam (or possibly
> water
> >>>       
> >> tube) but using a
> >>     
> >>> tesla turbine..... I've a piece of
> 3/4" wall
> >>>       
> >> thickness 9" ally tube
> >>     
> >>> (about a foot of it) that needs a job..... get
> some
> >>>       
> >> stainless 14 gauge
> >>     
> >>> for the sheaf and a bunch of gearing... run it
> on a
> >>>       
> >> self-pressurising
> >>     
> >>> burner that uses veg oil as fuel...... If I
> built the
> >>>       
> >> boat instead then
> >>     
> >>> it'd still be a tesla (I want to build a
> tesla)
> >>>       
> >> but with more gearing,
> >>     
> >>> reversible and with a way of decoupling the
> paddles
> >>>       
> >> from each other so
> >>     
> >>> one could be reversed....
> >>>
> >>> chrisc
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>         
> >>> [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>       
> >>>> On Behalf Of Phill Smith
> >>>> Sent: 23 January 2009 13:37
> >>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally
> Pally, was
> >>>>         
> >> RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >>     
> >>>> I like the sound of the steamcycle!!!!
> That would
> >>>>         
> >> be good to see.....
> >>     
> >>>> Hmmm... You've got me thinking
> now..... Water
> >>>>         
> >> tube boiler, oil fired,
> >>     
> >>> 6V
> >>>       
> >>>> battery to operate the controls, double
> acting
> >>>>         
> >> twin cylinder engine
> >>     
> >>> (nice
> >>>       
> >>>> and small but smooth torque.....
> >>>>
> >>>> I had better not tell my oldest boys about
> this
> >>>>         
> >> idea, otherwise my
> >>     
> >>>> pressent
> >>>> projects will be put on hold for a
> while......
> >>>>         
> >> Actually they would ALL
> >>     
> >>>> want
> >>>> one, so I would be unlikely to get
> ANYTHING done
> >>>>         
> >> for the next 10
> >>     
> >>>> years!!!!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Phill.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Chris Crosskey"
> >>>>         
> >> <chris.crosskey@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>     
> >>>> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:15 PM
> >>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at Ally
> Pally, was
> >>>>         
> >> RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Many thanks for the replies, I will
> >>>>>           
> >> investigate further.... I will
> >>     
> >>> soon
> >>>       
> >>>>> be moving into a place where I will
> have a
> >>>>>           
> >> lot more space and I was
> >>     
> >>>>> looking for something to fill it
> with...
> >>>>>           
> >> I'd got it down to either a
> >>     
> >>>>> paddle-steam boat somewhere between a
> large
> >>>>>           
> >> canoe and a small launch
> >>     
> >>> in
> >>>       
> >>>>> size or else a steam motorcycle, not a
> >>>>>           
> >> steam-assisted bicycle like
> >>     
> >>> the
> >>>       
> >>>>> Hope though (lovely though they
> are)......
> >>>>>
> >>>>> chrisc
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From:
> modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> On Behalf Of Wilfried Vermeiren
> >>>>>> Sent: 22 January 2009 14:54
> >>>>>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Seen at
> Ally
> >>>>>>             
> >> Pally, was RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >>     
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> Unfortunally I had to let go the
> Ally
> >>>>>>             
> >> Pally exhibition but I had a
> >>     
> >>>>> look
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> trough the steamboat register 7th
> edition
> >>>>>>             
> >> and they list 5 steam
> >>     
> >>>>> launches
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> with side or rear paddle drive. I
> also
> >>>>>>             
> >> had a look at pictures taken
> >>     
> >>> by
> >>>       
> >>>>> me
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>> the Henley traditional boat rally
> and
> >>>>>>             
> >> came up with a few more
> >>     
> >>>>> examples.
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> if you are interested I can scan /
> mail
> >>>>>>             
> >> the pictures.
> >>     
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Wilfried Vermeiren
> >>>>>>
> http://users.skynet.be/modelbouw.wilfried
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             
> >>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>     
> >>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>>>>> Van: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Namens Chris Crosskey
> >>>>>> Verzonden: donderdag 22 januari
> 2009 9:56
> >>>>>> Aan: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Onderwerp: [modeleng] Seen at Ally
> Pally,
> >>>>>>             
> >> was RE: Re: Steam Boats
> >>     
> >>>>>> A bit of a question for those at
> the Ally
> >>>>>>             
> >> Pally ME show...
> >>     
> >>>>>> The full scale steam boat folks
> were
> >>>>>>             
> >> there as usual and I noticed
> >>     
> >>> some
> >>>       
> >>>>>> pictures on their stand of a very
> small
> >>>>>>             
> >> side-paddle steam
> >>     
> >>>>>> launch.....unfortunately I was a
> bit
> >>>>>>             
> >> knackered and in a hurry
> >>     
> >>> anyway
> >>>       
> >>>>> so
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> didn't find out what it was
> and
> >>>>>>             
> >> whether there is a design for it or
> >>     
> >>>>>> indeed anything. Does anyone else
> recall
> >>>>>>             
> >> the picture in question
> >>     
> >>> And
> >>>       
> >>>>>> know anything more about it?
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> >>>>>>
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