[modeleng] Re: Poultney Locomotive

The friend of mine that I asked did he have any information on the Poultney 
Locomotive has replied. It seems the only info that he could find agrees 
with Alan Stepney's
Here is his reply in full

Lee

Hi Lee

This is really all there seems to be on the Poultney locomotive.  Looks like 
it was only a Ravenglass and Eskdale 15 inch gauge type.  Of course, from 
the photo it looks like a standard gauge or larger engine.  However, a 15 
inch gauge engine wouldn't have 60,000 lb tractve effort!  This is just 
about what you get out of a D 57, which I think is about 59,000lb!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenglass_and_Eskdale_Railway_locomotives

http://www.rerps.co.uk/loco_stock.htm

No. 7 River Esk
Built in 1923 as a 2-8-2 by Davey Paxman of Colchester and designed by Henry 
Greenly, it was first employed on stone trains, however soon found more use 
on passenger traffic. During a rebuild in 1928 by the Yorkshire Engine Co., 
the engine received a Poultney steam tender, making the loco a 2-8-2-0-8-0. 
This proved unsuccessful and was soon removed, instead being utilised nearly 
forty years later as part of the second River Mite, after languishing at 
Murthwaite. The locomotive survived into the preservation era and received a 
new tender in 1970 along with a new livery of LNWR black. In the 1980s, the 
Esk was fitted with a gas-producer boiler and received an award from British 
Coal, however this has been replaced in recent years. The locomotive has 
visited the Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway several times and was a 
predecessor to that railway's Greenly Pacific locomotives. The engine is 
currently in Blackberry Black of the LNWR with red, off-white and black 
lining.

No. 9 River Mite (II)
Using the former Poultney tender chassis, fitted to River Esk from 1928, the 
new Preservation Society designed a 2-8-2 locomotive, which was built by 
Clarksons of York in 1966. It is in many ways similar to the Esk, sharing a 
miniature outline. After overhauls in 1978 and 2006/7, it celebrated its 
fortieth year at Ravenglass in 2007 and is owned by the R&ER Preservation 
Society. The locomotive is in the Indian Red livery of the Furness Railway, 
with vermillion and black lining.

There is a Poultney Patent, but I can't tell whether there is any connection 
of this with the locomotive design.  I also can't tell whether there is any 
connection with EC Poultney, which is a pity.




This is a citation of the 2 volume book which I have by EC Poultney - it's 
the second one listed below.

Poultney, Edward Cecil
See also Authorship
British express locomotive development, 1896-1948. London: Allen & Unwin, 
1952. 174pp.
Very brief preface by R.A. Riddles. Began as a series of articles in Modern 
Transport entitled Landmarks of express locomotive progress published 
between 1947 and 1950. Starting date selected on basis of railway races to 
Aberdeen.

Steam locomotion: the construction, working principles, and practical 
operation of steam locomotives, edited by C.R.H. Simpson. London, Caxton, 
1951.2 v. (viii, 329 + vi, 333 p) + 39 plates (incl. 1 col. & 7 folding). 
118 illus., 287 diagrs., 7 tables.
Both E.C. Poultney and C.R.H. Simpson were experts in this field of 
technical writing. A work of encyclopaedic proportions.



Barrie Boulton
Case Manager
ESOS Provider Support and Compliance Unit (LC 430))
International Quality Branch
Australian Education International Group
Department of Education, Employment and Workplace Relations




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