Hi All, From my recent experience never use this paint. I needed a small can of Black Gloss Paint for the running boards of my latest 5" gauge loco but just lately such cans seem to have all but disappeared. The only paint that I could find in small quantities was Plasti-Kote which from the description on the jar seemed OK being described as suitable for just about everything. The only difference being that it needed Thinners for brush cleaning which seemed to indicate that it was a type of Cellulose paint. The instructions also said the it dried without brush marks. On using the stuff the first problem is that it is fast drying and does not give time for the brush marks to level out. Having given the running boards two coats it looked as though they had been painted with a Tar brush so I decided to sand them down after letting the paint dry for one week. On trying to sand them, the paint was so soft that it tended to roll rather than sand down. Having got them as smooth as I could I was going to wipe the surfaces over with a rag moistened with White Spirit to remove dust, remembering that the paint was thinners based. When the White Spirit touched the paint it promptly softened and smeared making a real mess. I then decided to remove all the paint using Paint Stripper and start again. I gave it a good coating of stripper, left it for half an hour and then tried to wash it off. Whilst some paint came off, it basically turned to a sticky mess and still stuck to the metal. I then gave it another dose of stripper, left it for two hours and when I tried to wash it off, it again left a sticky messy surface. The question therefore is what is this stuff if Thinners and White Spirit attack it and is semi immune to stripper. It looks like the only way that I am going to get this rotten stuff off it to dump the running boards into a bucket of Thinners. Having hunted all over the place for small tins of real Black Gloss paint, I eventually found one in a little DIY Shop called the Jolly Bodger so when I do get the paint off, hopefully I can do a decent job this time. Regards Clif MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.