Evening all, Just browsing on e-bay, and noticed item 120408226344 (ie if you go to www.ebay.co.uk and search for this number, the item will come up). It looks like a pair of wooden patterns for full size wheel centres, which sound like they are of GWR origin. They just struck me as slightly curious items - what do others make of them? Is it common for such patterns to have survived (if that's what they are)? Yours, Rich. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.