[modeleng] Re: Machinery order

  • From: Allen Messer <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:10:48 -0700 (PDT)

Good shopping list, Jeff.  I may have said "Power
Hacksaw", but what I was picturing in my mind is a
"Metal-cutting Horizonal Band Saw."  Man!  I hate to
get old!!  Problem I have found with the Abrasive
Cut-off Saw is that sometimes, the heat generated will
cause the material to harden, especially some Steel
alloys.  No one seems to know why or how to avoid it.

Al Messer
--- Jeff Dayman <jeffdayman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Al,
> 
> Re your no 7  power hacksaw - having had one, I
> would say there may be two
> more useful alternates for it. I'll explain why.
> 
> -an electric abrasive wheel chop saw works faster
> and is more compact as
> well as cheaper than a power hacksaw. A bandsaw is
> also faster but is
> expensive unless you make your own (can be done
> easily). The downside to
> chop saws is they make an ungodly noise and sling
> dust everywhere. It is
> difficult to do any cuts except straight thru ones
> with them. Bandsaws are
> amazingly flexible in the cuts they can make.
> 
> The power hacksaw I had was not great, although when
> new, I'm sure cost a
> lot being a professional machine by DoAll. Being a
> reciprocating machine, it
> was known to buck and snort through structural iron
> most unpleasantly. It
> was OK with cutting cold rolled steel, aluminum or
> brass. When it broke its'
> main shaft for the ninth time, I scrapped it. In
> theory a power hacksaw can
> be left to work semi-attended, while you do
> something else, but whenever I
> left mine running alone it did something nasty
> either to itself or the
> stock, so no benefit there.
> 
> -An oxyacetylene outfit with a cutting torch,
> combined with an angle
> grinder, is very flexible at cutting stock and is
> also capable of welding
> and brazing light jobs. A really good small OA set
> and angle grinder is
> about the same cost as a power hacksaw.
> 
> My wish list in order if I were just starting out
> (just my two cents' worth)
> 
> -good bench with vise and drawers/ shelves
> 
> -good work lighting and lots of power outlets
> 
> -hand electric drill
> 
> -used industrial lathe minimum 9" dia swing x 24,
> minimum 1/3 HP motor,
> preferably 1/2 HP or more, 3 and 4 jaw chucks,
> tailstock drill chuck
> 
> -double ended bench grinder
> 
>  -drill press 8" capacity 1/2 HP minimum, good
> fitting quill and chuck, 115
> pc twist drill set
> 
> -oxyacetylene welding and cutting set
> 
> -4 1/2" angle grinder
> 
> -milling slide for lathe
> 
> -milling machine Bridgeport style or Warco T column
> style
> 
> -electric welding set
> 
> -good surface plate and marking out equipment
> 
> Cheers, Jeff Dayman Waterloo Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:29 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Machinery order
> 
> 
> > Oh, boy!  This is like asking a bloke what is his
> > favorite sports team or what he looks for in a
> woman!
> > LOL!
> >
> > 1. Vise
> > 2. Lathe
> > 3. Grinder
> > 4. Drill Press
> > 5. Shaper
> > 6. Milling Machine
> > 7. Power Hacksaw
> >
> > Al Messer (Who is still without Nos. 6 & 7)
> >
> > --- alanjstepney
> <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If you were setting up a model engineering
> workshop,
> > > what order would you
> > > buy machinery, and what machines (types)  would
> you
> > > buy?
> > >
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> > >
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