Ron, > . The general feeling of our members is > that it’s US that need protecting from THEM, some of whom can be very > unruly > at times! How right you are! We have a situation here where much time, effort and money are being spent in producing "Guidlines" intended to address a problem which, although extremely obnoxious, is virtually non existent compared to the almost weekly problem of vandalism. Try getting any official help on this one and you will be lucky to get a reply from any of the various authorities. Barrie MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.