In the not-so-distant future, it may become law that those giving rides to children have some sort of check to ensure they are "suitable" people, in much the same way that thsoe working with children or old people now have to have police clearance. Meanwhile, clubs may have their own rules, to protect themselves and the members, perhaps rules imposed upon them by the clubs insurers, or other outside bodies. No matter how much we object, that is the way things are these days, and we either have to accept it, or opt out and not give rides to children. Looking through back numbers of ME, there was heated correspondence regarding the enforced requirements for boilers to be tested and have certificates. Even further back, there were many debates about the new laws that required vehicles to have red lights at the rear. Nowadays we accept both of those measures, and I dont doubt that in the future, model engineers will accept laws and rules that are imposed today, once they have become the norm. As the song says, "the times they are a'changing". Alan Stepney http://www.alanstepney.info Model Engineering & steam engine information pages MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.