Jesse I don't have chapter and verse but I believe it comes from an E U Regulation which was then translated into English. We have horrible regs on boilers since Mr. Europe I know it all decided to interfere. Our version has been translated down a bit but is still grim. Bureaucrats who want to justify their existence have a lot to answer for - and those in Brussels are particularly bad as they actually believe their role is to protect us from ourselves. Still, working in Boston Lodge was fun. I spent the last couple of days helping to put Blanche, over 100 years old, back together again having had a new boiler fitted. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "JESSE LIVINGSTON" <fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Fuel Peter, Thanks for the info on hand firing those Fairlies. I always wondered how one could manage inside the cab with the fire doors on the sides of the boilers. Now I see, you have to stick parts of your anatomy outside the cab to load the grates. Now, why would some idiot of a bureaucrat come up with some sort of regulations concerning the diameter of the air piping? I mean, usually pipes (at least here in the USA) are tested to about 1,000 PSI (453 KG) per square inch. I doubt that anyone's compressor will reach that kind of pressure except maybe in an industrial setting. Jesse in the North American Colonies. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.