Hi Ken, You said: >As to the second set of jaws, thanks for the suggestion of Rotagrip from >Roger but I think I will go with Wilfrieds advice and not pursue that one as >the >cost will frighten me. > Aha - me thinks there has been a mis-understanding somewhere - I did not make myself clear. Rotagrip do second hand jaws at a much more reasonable price than new ones. I bought a set of second hand jaws from them some time ago and their cost was something like 1/5 of the new cost, if I remember right. Give Ian a call and see what he can do for you. He seemed very reasonable to me and he is trying to get better known in the model engineering circle. I better add that I have no connection with the firm other than as a satisfied customer. Cheers, Roger Mason, in St. Agnes. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.