Actually I was talking about welding preps Unk Terry Terry me lad, there is no telling the amount of cast iron I have ground a bevel on so I could braze or weld it and chiseling out a "V" groove never even crossed my mind. I just pick up the handiest disc grinder and grind away.. Works for me anyway. Jesse the redneck MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.