Al, The locomotive resembles that piece of 1868 scrap metal that is at a museum up in Michigan. It too had side rods and a gear drive from a vertical marine type engine. I used the photo in my Newbie Project construction article to show that there were actually similar engines built. Unfortunately the Michigan engine now in addition to having had some of its parts scavanged for scrap metal, has had the nice wooden lagging removed from the boiler. A pitiful example to put in any museum anywhere, considering its present condition, but they are proud enough of it to have at least put a pavilion roof over it to protect the sad remains. As to the very nice Ally Pally "Newbie" model, it would appear at first glance that the engine is a bit large for the boiler. Possibly the boiler is very efficient? Any'ow the photos are very nice with a lot of beautiful workmanship exhibited. Too bad we couldn't make it over there to see it all in person, but as someone else has already mentioned, the photos ease the pain somewhat. Just wish there were some more of them. Jesse in chilly windy west Tennessee > Well, what do you know: someone has built a British > version of Jesse's "Newbie" engine, with side rods, no > less. Or did Jesse just Americanize this idea? Now > I'm more confused than ever! Oh, well, all of the > models shown show a great deal of talent and very good > workmanship. Thanks for posting the photos. > > Al Messer MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.