Sorry that you're having problems. There are many settings to work out, for sure. Very soon, I will be releasing a complete setup package for using the Motif with Sonar, both for basic MIDI sequencing for those of you that have USB connections, as well as a fully integrated all-digital multi-bus setup for those of you that have mLAN. I know that the Motif has been out for almost two years now, and, for a while, it has seemed like the ES is the board with superior accessibility. This is because a lot of the XS benefits have been slow in coming due to the many pieces that have been involved, and the nothing that myself and those that have helped me make for doing all of this work to simplify the process for those of you that aren't so techy. Before anything could be done, we needed good access to many Motif XS capabilities. We needed good documentation on the Motif XS, and how to get around its control panels. We needed to get a good stable PC-based editor for allowing us to remote control many of its functions (including the Jaws scripts). We needed Yamaha to make some basic changes in the firmware that have gradually made these other goals possible (fixing bugs that prevented editor functions from working, adding keyboard support so that we can actually type filenames when saving, etc). To use the Motif XS as part of a larger accessible studio on a PC, we needed to accomplish other goals. The mLAN drivers didn't work so well with Sonar in the early days, and we had to wait for those problems to be sorted out. Of course, the editors are a big part of working in Sonar, since they control the Motif mixing functions. Also, accessibility in Sonar itself has come quite a long way in the last two years, particularly with the enhancements to CakeTalking. Sonar 8, with its features, external inserts in particular, will make working with the Motif XS a lot like using a softsynth. You Sonar users will be able to sequence in Sonar and have your creations rendered from start to finish in complete digital form without having to manually record in track after track of sequenced MIDI data from the Motif to audio tracks. Many advanced users have put their toes in to some of these areas, some trying mLAN, others using the editors. However, I don't know any blind people that are using the full system as intended. Even those that are trail blazers must put up with lots of configuration headaches together with trial and error. That will change very soon. We are reaching the point where the pieces are finally coming together. When I started out creating electronic music 15 years ago, I didn't know other blind people that were doing what I was doing. I bought a lot of crap gear, memorized many screens, and frustrated myself beyond description. The only good thing that came of all that is that I learned these techniques for memorizing gear and, of course, got my MIDI-knight black belt. My intension from the beginning with MoAccess has been to make the Motif for all of you, what it has been for me, a wonderful instrument that helped me create music instead of mess with lots of equipment. I think that this is particularly important for blind people, since, not only do most of us have no idea what the cryptic configuration options mean, but we have the added disadvantage that we are unable to see the screens on the gear to read the cryptic configuration options. Hopefully, the Motif XS can replace the old Kurzweils in peoples' minds as the accessible workstation. It already has been, but most people just don't understand it yet. Anyway, when is the question. The answer is 1-2 weeks. I'm going to CSUN this year, and I'd like to be able to talk this stuff up when I'm there. I really hope that Yamaha releases their drum voices by then, as I'd like to include them in some all files that I've built, but that part is completely out of my control. Still, it is a small little piece. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose Abreu Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:31 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. Well, I solved my problem, but there's still an academic question out there. I moved the piano in track 1 of Sonar to another track, 13, and assigned it to midi channel 1. It now responds to the volume control. So, the problem is not on midi channel 1, but rather on Sonar's track 1. At this point it's academic, I will just not use track 1, but I do still wonder why this is. Jose -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:26 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. Cable from computer to keyboard. Must first download Yamaha Universal MIDI driver from YamahaSynth.com, but is easy setup. mLAN does the same thing over a Firewire cable, but also provides 11 stereo (or 22 mono) channels of digital I/O for routing audio in to, or out of, DAW apps like Sonar. Bryan Bryan -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:55 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. So, to use the USB connection instead of midi, I can just connect a cable from the computer to the keyboard, or do I need the optional lan adaptor? Jose -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:49 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. With USB, you are abler to do more than just midi, you can also use the remote functions and coming soon, even more. I think there are 3 ports that the USB uses... I forget what they all do though. I know that a is midi, one is remote, and I forget what that other is at the moment. Maybe Smart can chime in here and back me up? -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. I was wrong then about the insertion fx. I do remember though that it was discussed on here a while ago how USB connection has advantages over MIDI. Yes, no? Omar Binno AIM: LOD1116 Skype: obinno1 Website: www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. Really? I'm not sure how this can be. MIDI doesn't have anything to do with if the Motif uses its insert effects processors or not, as far as I know. Bryan From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. When you use the motif via midi through sonar, you lose the insertion fx that you have on the first 8 tracks of a project. If you use it through USB, you can get those fx and it sounds alot nicer. I'm not sure if that would fix the problem you're currently having, but just thought i'd pass that bit of info along. Omar Binno AIM: LOD1116 Skype: obinno1 Website: www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. There's no real reason, except this is the set up I've had for a while. I only use the connection to create sequences in Sonar using the XS, and to record sequences from sonar into the XS using the record all tracks function. I only change my set up once every 5 or so years. Once I'm confortable with a set up, I don't like to change it, even if it's, potentially, for the better. For example, I still use a Layla20 sound card. It records at a lower resolution than many more modern cards, like the Layla24, and a more recent Echoaudio card called Audiofire. However, this set up works fine for me, and I don't spend have of my studio time fixing connection problems. I do have a p4 computer, not a comodor64! However, I don't have a dual or quad core computer cause, once again, mine works fine. Jose From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. I'm just curious: why are you connecting your motif via Midi rather than USB? Omar Binno AIM: LOD1116 Skype: obinno1 Website: www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi. Why doesn't my XS listen to the Sonar volume setting on midi channel 1? I have my XS connected to my computer via midi through my Layla sound card. In song mode, the volume on channel 1 is always at the highest level (127). It won't change. The volume for all of the other channels change as I adjust them in Sonar. I use Sonar 2.2. Yes, that's right, 2.2. It works fine for me. I have dealt with this in the past by simply setting the keyboard not to receive control data, and creating templates on the keyboard with the settings I want. However, I'm curious to know why this is happening. I remember it also happening with my Yamaha S80. I dealt with the problem the same way. I don't think it happens with the Karma, but I don't remember because, with the Karma, I always disabled control data without even checking if this was a problem. Thanks. Jose. For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info. To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess. For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info. To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess. For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info. 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