Re: [MoAccess] Things that make midi notes stick
- From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:06:31 -0400
Hey glad you got it working!
AS I said, it's alot of stuff to sort through, but once you get it all
workking, it's awesome feeling and loads of fun!
Regards, D!J!X!
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bobbi Blood
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:50 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Things that make midi notes stick
Hey again,
DJX, You rock. My bad for doing the silliest thing around. I was messing
around on a song I already had recorded internally and so I think it was the
channel info that was all screwy. I didn't install the instrument
definitions yet either so that's gonna be my next step. Soon as I moved to
a blank song and started messing about, everything worked just fine.
Nothing is sticking now and tracks are recording and playing back just fine,
Yay! I still need to make sure my audio setup is okay though, as I'm not
picking up the audio from my synthesizer in the headphones which are
connected through my Firebox. I think when I checked it last night, I was
hearing from the headset connected to my synth. LOL oops. But that's kind
of another topic altogether. I'm gonna mess round with it a bit more to see
what I can figure out. I'm so excited I can hardly see straight! Expect an
off list Email from me soonishly about some off topic stuff. I'm acting on
a hunch here and thought it wouldn't hurt to ask you. Anyway, thanks again!
Most Sincerely,
Bobbi
From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:26 AM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Things that make midi notes stick
Hi, it sounds like your connections are all setup correctly.
I usually select midi omni for inputs and outputs, and select a channel
through the track properties. Did you make sure to select a channel?
Try recording midi onto a soft synth track, where the midi is just bening
received by sonar. See if notes stick then. I'm not sure what the quick seq
setups exactly do or change, on the eS I just shut off local and rock on,
it has a sequencer setup, but it's for remote mode. The problem could be
something there. Latency as we know it isn't really an issue, midi is basic
enough that it can be handled with no problems. It sounds like data such as
note off msg are being dropped or something.
You can try checking cables to be sure they work, or switch to USB mode
temporarily to see if the problem persists; if so, then it's prob a setting
on the motif.
To check for drivers (which shouldn't be the issue), you'll have to go
through the manufacturer's website and look on the page for the interface,
see what the latest driver was before they discontinued it; if you're using
original cd drivers there should be a later version.
Asio is an audio thing, it has nothing to do with midi, don't mix the 2 up,
midi is just performance data and messages, what note to press, how long to
hold it for, how strong to play it etc, audio is the actual sound. I've
never heard of any recent/modern interfaces having issues with midi (though
that doesn't mean it doesn't happen), as it's usually a streightforward
send/receive type of deal, sonar and the motif do the midi interpretations.
I know that the new midisport 2x2 from m-audio has midi latency issues, but
that was supposedly fixed with a firmware update.
The reason you can't technically quantize the digital audio (though you
really can somewhat quantize it with sonar's tools), but the digital audio
signal that the motif sends via SPDIF is converted back to analog at the
audio interface and then reproduced by it and/or sonar's audio engine. So it
doesn't stay in the digital realm; by the time you hear the audio, it's been
converted back to sound waves; otherwise, you'd just hear a static type of
sound, sort of like when you put a data cd on an auio cd-player. Midi is
always digital, because it's just information on how the synthesizer is
suppose to play back the sounds. You can think of midi like meta info, kind
of like html; it tells the browser how to display the data and gives it the
data, but each browser interprets it in its own way. So sonar receives the
midi info as ones and zeros, and can do whatever it wants with it such as
quantize it before it sends it to the synth to play it. Audio is played or
sent via the fx bin as soon as it's received. This is a rough explanation,
it's more involved with more details, but it's the main idea, midi stays
digital and can be altered, the audio does not, even if it's sent digitally,
it's converted back to it's original audio form.
There's alot to learn and grasp, but you're well on your way! If you need
more in depth help with any of it all, feel free to contact me off list, as
I offer tutoring services on all this stuff and more.
Regards, D!J!X!
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