Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.

  • From: "John Fioravanti" <fioresq1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:01:50 -0500

The editors don't work right using midi, at least for theEs. John Fioravanti, I 
use the USB and they work great. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bryan Smart 
  To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.


  Actualy, in MIDI mode, you aren't able to use the Motif control surface 
features, since that data is carried on a separate virtual MIDI port. Also, I'm 
not entirely sure that the editors work over MIDI.

   

  As long as you don't need those things, a basic MIDI connection is fine for 
basic controller/tone generator stuff.

   

  Bryan

   

  From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Jose
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:16 AM
  To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.

   

  No, I don't lose the insertion effects.  They work just fine.  There is no 
real difference between using USB and midi to connect.  The only difference is 
speed which can be an issue if you are driving a lot of channels or modules at 
the same time.  Using USB versus midi is like using the highway versus local 
roads.  The beginning and end points are still the same.  While we are on the 
subject, tis is one of the things that makes Yamaha better than Korg.  
Instruments in song mode sound the same as in voice mode because they carry the 
effects.  Well, at least 8 of them.

   

  Jose

   

  From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Omar Binno
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM
  To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.

   

  When you use the motif via midi through sonar, you lose the insertion fx that 
you have on the first 8 tracks of a project. If you use it through USB, you can 
get those fx and it sounds alot nicer. I'm not sure if that would fix the 
problem you're currently having, but just thought i'd pass that bit of info 
along.

   

   

  Omar Binno

   

  AIM: LOD1116
  Skype: obinno1
  Website: www.omarbinno.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Jose 

    To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:03 AM

    Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.

     

    There's no real reason, except this is the set up I've had for a while.  I 
only use the connection to create sequences in Sonar using the XS, and to 
record sequences from sonar into the XS using the record all tracks function.  
I only change my set up once every 5 or so years.  Once I'm confortable with a 
set up, I don't like to change it, even if it's, potentially, for the better.  
For example, I still use a Layla20 sound card.  It records at a lower 
resolution than many more modern cards, like the Layla24, and a more recent 
Echoaudio card called Audiofire.  However, this set up works fine for me, and I 
don't spend have of my studio time fixing connection problems.  I do have a p4 
computer, not a comodor64!  However, I don't have a dual or quad core computer 
cause, once again, mine works fine.

     

    Jose

     

    From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Omar Binno
    Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM
    To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.

     

    I'm just curious: why are you connecting your motif via Midi rather than 
USB?

     

     

    Omar Binno

     

    AIM: LOD1116
    Skype: obinno1
    Website: www.omarbinno.com

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Jose 

      To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:23 AM

      Subject: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.

       

      Why doesn't my XS listen to the Sonar volume setting on midi channel 1?  I
      have my XS connected to my computer via midi through my Layla sound card.
      In song mode, the volume on channel 1 is always at the highest level 
(127).
      It won't change.  The volume for all of the other channels change as I
      adjust them in Sonar.  I use Sonar 2.2.  Yes, that's right, 2.2.  It works
      fine for me.  I have dealt with this in the past by simply setting the
      keyboard not to receive control data, and creating templates on the 
keyboard
      with the settings I want.  However, I'm curious to know why this is
      happening.  I remember it also happening with my Yamaha S80.  I dealt with
      the problem the same way.  I don't think it happens with the Karma, but I
      don't remember because, with the Karma, I always disabled control data
      without even checking if this was a problem.  Thanks.

      Jose.


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