Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
- From: "Goldfingas" <goldfingas@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:04:20 -0500
Ok ok, I get the point. Lol. Well they sure as hell need to sample drums
from another company then. Maybe DW or someone like that. I am not feeling
the factory drums now. I kind of thought about that after I wrote it. How
they are the only company with a real cp and no one else really does that
right.
I wonder what brand piano the KSounds one is? Maybe Steinway?
Hmmm, anyway...
GF
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
What do you mean about Yamaha not sampling their own pianos? That is where
the piano sounds in the Motif come from.
The main Motif XS piano sample is from a Yamaha CF series concert grand.
Unfortunately, that is kind of a bright piano for general use, but I suppose
that they were aiming this at the classical crowd first.
The S90ES piano, the one that has an XS version in the new XSpanded bank I
uploaded is a Yamaha S700 piano. The S700 is sort of a strange piano, since
there isn't a real Yamaha S700 piano for sale. The S700 is a piano that was
specifically designed for sampling. Details are sketchy on this, but
supposedly Yamaha built a piano where the piano keys could be mechanically
triggered by another device at specific velocity levels.
The project supposedly cost Yamaha over $250,000. Supposedly, this is why
the sample switching between velocity levels and key ranges is so smooth on
that piano. I'm not sure how the CF piano was recorded, but they probably
had a human player operating keys.
The CP70 electric grand is a sample from a Yamaha CP70 piano, but the detail
of sampling in the CP70 voices doesn't even approach the level of attention
that was paid to the acoustic pianos. Still, that's a Yamaha instrument,
also.
Anyhow, the Motif pianos are all real Yamaha pianos. Most of the other
instruments in the Motif come from Yamaha instruments, also. Whether you
like the tone of any particular instrument or not is a matter of personal
taste. Yamaha is certainly a Unique company in this regard.
Korg, Roland, and Kurzweil all built their keyboard voices through a mix of
sampling instruments on their own and licensing recordings from other
companies. In most cases, the instrument voices in the Motif are produced
from samples made by Yamaha, of instruments that were built by Yamaha. I
think that is one big reason why the Motif is still king of the workstation
keyboards when it comes to imitating the sound of real instruments.
Bryan
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
They did give us the plg 150 dr, and pc cards. Those had the drums from the
tyros and they were a bit different. And the did come out with some sample
banks that weren't all that good at all. I have demos of them to prove it.
Damon and I both cringed at them. But I hope the can put something cool out.
After all, they do make drum kits for real and why not mic one of their own
up and sample it. Guess that's not saying much either, they make pianos and
how many sounds do you hear that say Yamaha studio grand or anything like
that. Lol
GF
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On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
Hey, don't be too negative. After all, when is the last time that we got a
new acoustic kit for the Motif from Yamaha? I don't think that they've added
any new acoustic kits since the original Motif. There were little touches
added in the XS, like the toms having multiple layers, but no new kits.
I
think that the drums are the area of the Motif that has changed the least
since it was originally released.
Bryan
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
They won't be, they usually aren't. Don't get your hopes up.
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On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
Wow. We really need new rock drums for the motif, so I hope these are good.
--
Damon Fibraio
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:25 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
Over on Motifator, there has been an announcement that Yamaha will be
releasing new drum voices to complement the new instrument voices for the
XS. There will be new multi-sampled acoustic drums, including a new oak kit
and new power kit. There aren't many details on the electronic drums that
will be included, but we've been told to expect new hip hop kits. The set
will also feature new percussion kits, including ethnic percussion.
I've recently been working on the final touches of a complete setup package
for those of you that are working with either Sonar or QWS as an accessible
computer-based sequencer. I know that there is a lot of setup involved when
someone first gets a Motif in order to get everything synced up and running
with the computer, so I'll be posting setup instructions, Sonar and QWS
instrument definitions for the XS, and Motif mix dump request macros so that
you can save Motif mix changes as part of your Sonar projects. Most
importantly, I'll post a new all file that includes all of the new XS
instrument and drum voices plus is preconfigured to work in Sonar.
You'll
need to install the XS USB or mLAN driver on your computer, and will need to
perform some basic setup in Sonar, but, as far as the Motif, you'll just
need to turn it on, load this all file, and you'll be ready to sequence with
Sonar and all of the new voices from Yamaha.
Bryan
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