Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI

Clarence, you have a TR Rack? Wow. How is it? I'd trade, but I hardly
have anything.

On 3/6/09, Goldfingas <goldfingas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Korg tr rack? Roland rs5, Roland vs 8 80? I don't know, what are you looking
> for?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Sorry.  Well, if it's any consolation, it hasn't actually sold.  One guy
> expressed interest, but didn't come see it.  Do you have any thing laying
> around that I might be interested in for trading purposes?  It'd be hard
> though cause I need cash!
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:49 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> You suck! I wanted one so bad! Oh well...
>
> GF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:43 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> It's on Craig's list right now!  Don't get me wrong, that Karma board has
> made me tons of money both in arrangements and live performances.  However,
> it's the last meaningful Korg board that doesn't have a touch screen.
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:56 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Can I have your karma then?
> I have always wanted one.
>
> GF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jose Abreu
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:50 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Well, actually, I'm not having that problem anymore cause I'll just not use
> track one in Sonar.  I love the Motif XS.  When the ES came out, I learned
> it was much more accessible than the Korg boards, but, to be honest, I was
> not sold on the sounds.  For Latin sequences, I still very much preferred
> the Korg sounds on the Karma.  However, that is no longer true with the
> release of the XS.  The XS blows Korg out of the water, and out of my band
> and my studio for good.
>
> A huge thanks to those of you who came before me, and are opening the way.
> Special mention to Damon for sharing his knowledge directly with me, and,
> patiently, answering some of my idiotic questions, like how to load a sound
> file.  I will try to help out when I can as I am now fully sold on the XS
> and will put a lot of time into it.  I'll try to put together some other
> notes like the file mode notes I sent recently.
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:21 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Sorry that you're having problems. There are many settings to work out, for
> sure.
>
> Very soon, I will be releasing a complete setup package for using the Motif
> with Sonar, both for basic MIDI sequencing for those of you that have USB
> connections, as well as a fully integrated all-digital multi-bus setup for
> those of you that have mLAN.
>
> I know that the Motif has been out for almost two years now, and, for a
> while, it has seemed like the ES is the board with superior accessibility.
> This is because a lot of the XS benefits have been slow in coming due to the
> many pieces that have been involved, and the nothing that myself and those
> that have helped me make for doing all of this work to simplify the process
> for those of you that aren't so techy.
>
> Before anything could be done, we needed good access to many Motif XS
> capabilities. We needed good documentation on the Motif XS, and how to get
> around its control panels. We needed to get a good stable PC-based editor
> for allowing us to remote control many of its functions (including the Jaws
> scripts). We needed Yamaha to make some basic changes in the firmware that
> have gradually made these other goals possible (fixing bugs that prevented
> editor functions from working, adding keyboard support so that we can
> actually type filenames when saving, etc).
>
> To use the Motif XS as part of a larger accessible studio on a PC, we needed
> to accomplish other goals. The mLAN drivers didn't work so well with Sonar
> in the early days, and we had to wait for those problems to be sorted out.
> Of course, the editors are a big part of working in Sonar, since they
> control the Motif mixing functions. Also, accessibility in Sonar itself has
> come quite a long way in the last two years, particularly with the
> enhancements to CakeTalking. Sonar 8, with its features, external inserts in
> particular, will make working with the Motif XS a lot like using a
> softsynth. You Sonar users will be able to sequence in Sonar and have your
> creations rendered from start to finish in complete digital form without
> having to manually record in track after track of sequenced MIDI data from
> the Motif to audio tracks.
>
> Many advanced users have put their toes in to some of these areas, some
> trying mLAN, others using the editors. However, I don't know any blind
> people that are using the full system as intended. Even those that are trail
> blazers must put up with lots of configuration headaches together with trial
> and error. That will change very soon. We are reaching the point where the
> pieces are finally coming together.
>
> When I started out creating electronic music 15 years ago, I didn't know
> other blind people that were doing what I was doing. I bought a lot of crap
> gear, memorized many screens, and frustrated myself beyond description. The
> only good thing that came of all that is that I learned these techniques for
> memorizing gear and, of course, got my MIDI-knight black belt. My intension
> from the beginning with MoAccess has been to make the Motif for all of you,
> what it has been for me, a wonderful instrument that helped me create music
> instead of mess with lots of equipment. I think that this is particularly
> important for blind people, since, not only do most of us have no idea what
> the cryptic configuration options mean, but we have the added disadvantage
> that we are unable to see the screens on the gear to read the cryptic
> configuration options.
>
> Hopefully, the Motif XS can replace the old Kurzweils in peoples' minds as
> the accessible workstation. It already has been, but most people just don't
> understand it yet.
>
> Anyway, when is the question. The answer is 1-2 weeks. I'm going to CSUN
> this year, and I'd like to be able to talk this stuff up when I'm there.
> I really hope that Yamaha releases their drum voices by then, as I'd like to
> include them in some all files that I've built, but that part is completely
> out of my control. Still, it is a small little piece.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose Abreu
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:31 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> Well, I solved my problem, but there's still an academic question out there.
> I moved the piano in track 1 of Sonar to another track, 13, and assigned it
> to midi channel 1.  It now responds to the volume control.  So, the problem
> is not on midi channel 1, but rather on Sonar's track 1.  At this point it's
> academic, I will just not use track 1, but I do still wonder why this is.
>
> Jose
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> Cable from computer to keyboard. Must first download Yamaha Universal MIDI
> driver from YamahaSynth.com, but is easy setup.
>
> mLAN does the same thing over a Firewire cable, but also provides 11 stereo
> (or 22 mono) channels of digital I/O for routing audio in to, or out of, DAW
> apps like Sonar.
>
> Bryan
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:55 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> So, to use the USB connection instead of midi, I can just connect a cable
> from the computer to the keyboard, or do I need the optional lan adaptor?
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:49 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> With USB, you are abler to do more than just midi, you can also use the
> remote functions and coming soon, even more. I think there are 3 ports that
> the USB uses... I forget what they all do though. I know that a is midi, one
> is remote, and I forget what that other is at the moment. Maybe Smart can
> chime in here and back me up?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> I was wrong then about the insertion fx. I do remember though that it was
> discussed on here a while ago how USB connection has advantages over MIDI.
> Yes, no?
>
>
> Omar Binno
>
> AIM: LOD1116
> Skype: obinno1
> Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>       To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:24 PM
>       Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
>       Really? I'm not sure how this can be. MIDI doesn't have anything to
> do with if the Motif uses its insert effects processors or not, as far as I
> know.
>
>       
>
>       Bryan
>
>       
>
>       From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
>       Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM
>       To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>       
>
>       When you use the motif via midi through sonar, you lose the
> insertion fx that you have on the first 8 tracks of a project. If you use it
> through USB, you can get those fx and it sounds alot nicer. I'm not sure if
> that would fix the problem you're currently having, but just thought i'd
> pass that bit of info along.
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       Omar Binno
>
>       
>
>       AIM: LOD1116
>       Skype: obinno1
>       Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
>               ----- Original Message -----
>
>               From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>               To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>               Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:03 AM
>
>               Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>               
>
>               There's no real reason, except this is the set up I've had
> for a while.  I only use the connection to create sequences in Sonar using
> the XS, and to record sequences from sonar into the XS using the record all
> tracks function.  I only change my set up once every 5 or so years.
> Once
> I'm confortable with a set up, I don't like to change it, even if it's,
> potentially, for the better.  For example, I still use a Layla20 sound card.
> It records at a lower resolution than many more modern cards, like the
> Layla24, and a more recent Echoaudio card called Audiofire.  However, this
> set up works fine for me, and I don't spend have of my studio time fixing
> connection problems.  I do have a p4 computer, not a comodor64!
> However, I
> don't have a dual or quad core computer cause, once again, mine works fine.
>
>               
>
>               Jose
>
>               
>
>               From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
>               Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM
>               To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>               Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>               
>
>               I'm just curious: why are you connecting your motif via Midi
> rather than USB?
>
>               
>
>               
>
>               Omar Binno
>
>               
>
>               AIM: LOD1116
>               Skype: obinno1
>               Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
>                       ----- Original Message -----
>
>                       From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>                       To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>                       Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:23 AM
>
>                       Subject: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>                       
>
>                       Why doesn't my XS listen to the Sonar volume setting
> on midi channel 1?  I
>                       have my XS connected to my computer via midi through
> my Layla sound card.
>                       In song mode, the volume on channel 1 is always at
> the highest level (127).
>                       It won't change.  The volume for all of the other
> channels change as I
>                       adjust them in Sonar.  I use Sonar 2.2.  Yes, that's
> right, 2.2.  It works
>                       fine for me.  I have dealt with this in the past by
> simply setting the
>                       keyboard not to receive control data, and creating
> templates on the keyboard
>                       with the settings I want.  However, I'm curious to
> know why this is
>                       happening.  I remember it also happening with my
> Yamaha S80.  I dealt with
>                       the problem the same way.  I don't think it happens
> with the Karma, but I
>                       don't remember because, with the Karma, I always
> disabled control data
>                       without even checking if this was a problem.
> Thanks.
>                       
>                       Jose.
>                       
>                       
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