Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

  • From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:32:53 -0400

If they can work together, there is a trick or special workaround
involved. You'll have to try and call Tascam for help of this type.

I'm interested to know the solution, though. The FW1884 is very popular
with blind people. There are several other XS/FW1884 owners, so please
let the list know if you discover anything.

Bryan


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of oscar
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

The ADAT unit allows me to set its clock by hand wich is nice, so I set
it to 44.1 24bit but the problem is that even if I set it by hand if the
1884 control panel is not set to adat for its clock  as soon as I turn
on the adat it starts chattering at me something awful. 
Basically it needs to sink with the 1884 via the adat port or it does
not work.  This is a good one ha?  

Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151
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On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Hmm. Maybe your adat device is running at 48kHz? I'm not sure, but I
think they all do. Use S/PDIF for clock, and then try to manipulate
settings on the adat device to get it to match.

Bryan
 

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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Yes all the changes that I am making are on the FW1884 control panel.
Here is how its set up.
Control Protocol, set to FW 1884 Native
Clocking Sample rate, set to 44.1KHZ
Clock source is set to Digital in ADAT,
What I just discovered is that If I set the Clock source to SPDIF the
clicking and popping gos away but then I cant use my interface that I
have plugged in to the ADAT port.  Looks like I cant have it both ways
unless you all know of something I am missing here.  

thanks
Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

When you talk about how your DAW is set, I hope that you aren't talking
about your recording host software like Sonar. Your recording settings
in Sonar, regarding sample rate/bit depth, have absolutely nothing to do
with the configuration of your audio interface. Any changes that you're
making regarding the connection of the Motif should be going on in the
FW1884 control panel.

Also, there is no need to concern yourself with clock transmition.
Unlike other digital audio formats, S/PDIF transmits at a fixed clock.
There is no need or ability to transmit a clock signal for an S/PDIF
connection.

I've used the Motif XS's s/PDIF connection very rarely. I used it with
my MOTU Ultra lite and my Presonus Firebox. It worked fine in both
cases. I'm sure that it can work with the FW1884, given the right FW1884
settings.
Those other interfaces are very cheap when compared to the FW1884.

Of course, mLAN is quite superior as a digital connection, but XP
doesn't have sufficient audio resources to run mLAN with another audio
interface at the same time. Based on what I've read, I think that Vista
will allow mLAN and another audio interface to run at the same time, but
I haven't had enough courage yet to try Vista on my DAW.

Bryan


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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Ok good because that's what I have my DAW set to.  
So now I know that its not the clock settings so I am back at step 1.
Any other ideas anyone?  Poor me jajaja.


Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151
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On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

I've got the Tascam US-144. Maybe you should set sample clock source on
"internal", not automatic. In my case, I can't switch between 44.1 khz
and higher, if the clock source on tascam is set on automatic.

How ever, the owner's manual says that the digital out of the XS is on
44.1 khz , 24 bits. I don't think, you can change that for the XS.

Benjamin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8


No, it means that the digital connection on the Tascam will probably
need to be set for 48kHz. I don't know if that means that the entire
Tascam system must be at 44kHz or not.

I'm not even 100% certain that the s/pdif out on the Motif XS runs at
48.
You might try using the Tascame at 48 to see if that makes a difference.

I wouldn't run your DAW at 48kHz. That is an odd-ball rate. Most people
run at 44 or 96. If you run at 48, it will make it difficult to exchange
projects with others.

Bryan



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of oscar
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Thanks Bryan,
So that means that if I want to use the Motif through the SPDIF I have
to set everything to record at 48KHZ?


Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

It should be 48kHz.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Its set to FW 1884 native 44.1 KHZ


Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Well, the clock setting on the Tascam is probably wrong.

You should investigate on the Tascam, though, as there isn't anything
that you can change on the Motif.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

It was a guess that that is what is causing my problem.  I have the
Motif plugged in to the in of the Tscam FW 1884 and when I hold a note I
get clicks sometimes on the write then the left channel.  I have no idea
what to try to solve this.


Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Why do you need to do that? SPDIF on the XS works at a fixed sampling
rate of 48kHz, and I think, 24-bit resolution. Anyhow, you can't change
it.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of oscar
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:43 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [MoAccess] How to change the clocking settings in motif xs8

Hi guise It looks like I need to edit the clock settings on my xs so it
will work correctly through  SPDIF but I don't know how.  Can anyone
give me the steps on how to get this done.?

thanks

Oscar Corella
Phone: 520-241-2445
Fax: 520-748-1151


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