[mira_talk] Re: Out of memory detected : std::bad_alloc
- From: Martin MOKREJŠ <mmokrejs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mira_talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:41:42 +0200
Hi,
George Marselis wrote:
> On 17/8/10 5:28 PM, "Bastien Chevreux" <bach@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>> Your machine has a bad set-up: only 4 GiB swap for 36 GiB RAM is not ideal.
>
> I am not quite sure about that: at 36GB RAM 99.9% of the [l][u|i]n[u|i]x out
> there will not touch the swap, unless they really have to do, like in
> specialized circumstances as such. If you have a 3TB smp machine, for
> example, what do you use for swap?
Swap is necessary for linux kernel to be able to handle memory management.
It needs swap to determine it has not enough memory to start cleanup of
allocated
RAM by other tasks. This is quite commonly discussed at the linux-kernel
mailing list.
Processes reserve memory in advance, so that is where reserving swap memory
gives
you the advantage of saving the only RAM you have. Just make swap (2-3)*36 GiB,
"swapon -s /dev/sdXY" and be happy.
>
> Having said that, a neat idea I have been playing with includes a raid 10 on
> 4 intel SSDs, 160GB each, just for swap. The machine has 128GB RAM.
Why RAID to slow down the swap allocation? You really need swap just to swap out
few MB, you never want your drives to be constantly reading out and writing in
the
data out/into swap disks. Machines are usually not responding by that time and
once that starts happening, you rather press the power button.
And when you run out of swap space, you know that linux kernel runs the random
process killer and kills some process, one by one until it helps? Do yourself
a favor and google-out the patches to modify this default behavior to your
preference. Certainly people do not agree with this but definitely, this is for
a long-time existing problem and the opinion of linux kernel gatekeepers is
clear.
Provide enough swap and make you you do not need it, and if one application eats
too much memory, do not start. Linux kernel has no way to know which process
cause
the memory pressure.
So, why do you want to have RAID over swapspace I do not understand.
Best,
Martin
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