[macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Good morning, Patrick and everyone,

More minutes!? Heavens no, that would just encourage their planning frenzy! 
*grin*

I have played briefly with a phone, and have also listened to Shane's excellent 
broadcast.  And yes, I'm quite comfortable on a qwerty keyboard, I currently 
have a Pocket PC phone.  I suppose I'm as ready as I'm going to be, I'm just 
worried about making everyone stand around for hours on end while I'm trying to 
figure out how to work my phone.  On the other hand, I would definitely get 
lots of practice! :)

I suppose if I got it tonight thogh, that would give me a couple of days to 
play with it before we got on the road ... Hmmmm ...
Cheers,
Donna 

-----Original Message-----
From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:16 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Hello Donna and all:

Six brothers and sisters? The first thing you might need is more minutes (wink).

I am not an expert though if you are unsure about how this thing might work and 
whether or not it is for you, see if you can lay your hands on one if you have 
not already. Second, give a listen to Shane Jackson's podcast number 3 ... if 
you have not done so already. It is an excellent introduction and is enough 
both to get you started and adventurous (smile). 

There are a few things to get used to. If you are used to typing on a nokia or 
similar phone the virtual keyboard might be a little disorienting at first. 
However, if you have a good working knowledge of the typing keyboard (which I 
am guessing you do) then it grows on you with time. In addition, learning how 
to do the "flick" sounds weird though those sorts of gestures make the iphone 
both really cool to use and easy. You may think you look really silly using the 
gestures (I did) though they will become your bread and butter (smile). 

If you are reasonably good at navigating itunes, setting it up should go 
smoothly. If you do get it, set it up before you leave so in case something 
goes not according to plan you have time to reach the nice people at AT&T .. 
and I do mean nice people. They were quite helpful when I buzzed them with a 
few questions.

I will stop writing now because I have gone on too long and others will chime 
in with there thoughts ...

Go for it ... you will enjoy it thoroughly. Just be careful ... loss of sleep 
do to enjoyment may be the result of this purchase.

Oh, and the fun thing about it, if you cannot get it all figured out you can 
have the family 
pitch in on your vacation. With voiceover on, they can see what you can see. The only difference, which you probably know already, is that when voiceover is activated the gestures are
 different. So, with someone watching over your shoulder and your iphone grasp 
tightly in your hand you can pick up a few useful tricks. 

Do not bother to curve your enthusiasm (smile)
On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
All right, mr. Dive-in-and-take-the plunge! *smile*
 
So, how much time do I need to get proficient on this thing.  When we travel to 
visit the family, we end up making a *lot of calls.  My husband has six 
brothers and sisters, and planning even the most insignifcant event seems to 
require at least 40 calls bakck and forth to different sibs.  So, my concern is 
that I?ll get down there and have to answer and make calls, and not have a clue 
how to do it.  What do I need to know to be up and running when our car pulls 
out of the driveway in four days.?
Cheers,
Donna
 
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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:30 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone
 
Hello Donna and all:
 
Good heavens (smile). Why wait (wink). Just think how much fun you will have 
calling people from your Iphone over the holiday weekend. You can send your 
first text message telling people that you wish they were here and you can even 
take a snapshot of the surroundings ... camera works great. Captured my first 
picture and now that picture is the photo that pops up when they call. Not 
everyone will think that is useful or practical though I do (smile). The 
picture came out pretty well ... impress your friends. 
 
I am an NPR fan and my Niece already got her little hands around the Iphone 
(smile). I was close by and she could not do more damage to the phone than I 
could. Currently, I think she will enjoy the other phone better ... has Mobile 
TV on it and she is a fan of the Cartoon network (smile).
 
OK, enough family history though I will finish by saying given that I can 
listen to tunes while on a call my aversion to headphones is giving way. This 
gadget just might cause changes in thinking (wink).
 
Run out and get one today ... who knows ... you buying one might put Keith over 
the edge (smile). Keith, you are next (smile).
On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


Good morning, Patrick,

Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one who doesn't like wearing 
headphones. And I have to say, if my poor brain can handle the multitasking, 
it'd be cool to listen to music while on a call. I think your messages have 
been successful, the urge to run out and try it is growing stronger by the 
moment. I imagine I'll have to succumb soon, but can't decide whether to do it 
now, and be learning to use it while on our 4th of July pilgrimage to visit the 
fam, or wait till after we get back.

BTW, re your niece, don't know if you're an NPR fan, but they had an amusing 
segment on All Things Considered a few weeks back about people's kids, nieces 
etc getting hold of their electronic toys. One of the stories featured someone 
whose toddler niece did manage to get hold of the iphone. I wouldn't recommend 
it! *smile*
Cheers,
Donna
From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:55 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Good morning Donna and all:
 
Beware I also have an aversion to wearing headphones. Though I must confess I 
found myself on a call with the Ipod playing in the background. If the sound 
quality of the Iphone's ipod was not so good I might have turned it off. 
Instead, I found myself enjoying both the music and the call. Never thought it 
would happen though it might happen again (smile). 
 
Even if that does not appeal to you ... run out and try it. Once you pick it up 
it is contagious (wink). 
 
 
On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


I guess I'm just going to have to try this out, it's really hard to picture! 
*smile* But, it's good to year yours and Cheryl's assurances that this can be 
done. I don't know why I have such an aversion to headphones, but I really 
dislike wearing them, unless I'm listening to music or something like that. 
And, we don't have a land line, so frequently I'll go running across the house 
to wherever I happened to have left my phone. It's nice to just be able to hit 
that left soft key and be on the call.

So, thanks for the feeddback, I will keep my enthusiasm for getting an IPhone 
alive! :)
Best,
Donna
From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:23 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Good morning Donna and all:
 
Donna. You can relight your enthusiasm for getting an Iphone (smile). It is not 
a requirement to have a head set on to answer or hang up from calls. You can do 
both quite nicely without the headset. I had to get used to the reality that 
moving the Iphone toggles the speaker phone. It was not an annoyance just a 
little surprising at first (wink). My niece thought it was pretty cool (smile). 
Now to keep her from running off with it. Is there an app for that?
 
 
On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


Hi all,

As one who doesn't yet have an iphone, the problem is this issue of requiring a 
headset.  I don't *want to *have to wear a head set to use this phone.  Apple 
really needs to address this.  I was really hot about getting the iphone, now 
I'm pulling back.  If I can't answer and end a call unless I'm wearing 
headphones, this isn't a phone I'm ever going to buy.
Best,
Donna


-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lodro Rigdzin
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:51 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone
 
The iphone headset that comes with the phone has a microphone afaik
 
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Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone
From: "Marco" <news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/06/2009 19:22
 
I thought that the 3GS came with a ear bud set with a mic on the cord.
My
nokia phone has this on the ear buds and it works great for answering
and
ending calls as well as talking handsfree.
 
Maybe it is under the accessories page that apple has under
apple.com/accessibility.
 
I've not checked out this sight yet but maybe it might have suggestions
for
accessibility devices that will make your IPhone experience even
better.
 
Marco
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: June 27, 2009 8:42 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone
 
I don't want to put in those earbuds for every call or walk around
with the earbuds on all the time in case somebody calls me.
So if I can't hear voiceover say "answer" and "end call"
I  just double tap until it answers or hangs up. Usually, though not
always, it will eventually hang up
anyway. A couple of times I haven't managed to answer till the third or
fourth ring but I haven't actually missed a call this way yet. What we
probably need is an independent way to turn up voiceover without having
to
get it to talk to turn it up. I wonder: if you had a real headset with
the
microphone built on instead of just the earbuds, is there an auto-
answer
setting? Or could you get a headset with an answer button on the
headset?
These might be options if you didn't mind wearing a headset all the
time,
though I think I'd rather not do this.
 
 
--
Cheryl
 
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