[macvoiceover] Re: searching for text on a web page

From: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:07:43 -0600

Hey Donna,

Trust me, you already have! I guess I can't really label myself as a"newbie", because I don't even own a Mac yet, but thanks to your willingnessto share, both on and off list, your struggles, frustrations, and, yes,triumphs, I will most likely be moving to a Mac in the very near future!


Keep asking those questions... it's how we all learn and grow!

Russell

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From: "Donna Goodin" <goodindo@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:18 PM
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: searching for text on a web page

Hi Marcy,

I would have been right there crying with you! *grin*

This list has been a huge help. I knoe I've asked a lot of questions, andI sso appreciate everyone's help. I look forward to the day when I cangive back to other newbies.

Cheers,
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcy Weinberg <rhymingmom1@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:25 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: searching for text on a web page

I'm with you here, Donna!  If I didn't have the help and guidance I
have had, I wouldn't be nearly where I am in terms of progress.  And
I'd have hated to see a grown woman cry, especially if it's me!  Marcy
On Jul 30, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

I have to say that's really hard to picture.  You do seem to have the
Mac in your bones.  I can't imagine what it would be like to sort all
this out without you and others on this list.  I really do think I
would have given up a week or so ago. *smile*
Take care,
Donna
On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:04 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

oh, you should hve seen me before this list was borne.  I struggled
just like everyone else new to the mac.

On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:

Hi,

Over the past decade or so I have been on a number of different
lists with Donna.  She, like most of us did at some point (excepting
of course  David and Lioncourt who have Macintosh accessibility in
their DNA <laugh>) will ask some newbie questions.  Coming over from
JAWS or some other Windows SR  or orca and GNU/Linux systems the
questions will certainly contain a bias as our expectations will be
preset by the learning we have already done in the past.

Donna, on the other lists from where I've known her, has always
provided a lot of help to newbies once she has learned how to
approach a task.  It is my not at all humble opinion that Donna is a
terrific asset to any online community that is interested in
technology and people with vision impairment.

I think it would be a valuable exercise but also one that will take
a lot of time and effort to create a document with a name like,
"VoiceOver Eye for the  JAWS Guy" or something similar that provides
basic tutorial information about VO but also provides a "this is how
you did it with JAWS but this is a Macintosh with VoiceOver and we
do things this way..."

Maybe someone could even write a little program that just   presents
a table with JAWS Way, VO Way as columns for major functions and a
detail button for functions with no direct analogues on the other
platform.

Obviously, someone could add Window-Eyes, HAL, System Access and
orca but with a worldwide market-share of over 90%, JAWS is the most
likely screen reader one would be leaving to start using a Macintosh.

Everything from how VO speaks the character at the insertion point
to table navigation is very different from the Windows and GNU
platforms.  A little understanding and patience and we'll make a new
friend and add a terrific mind to our community.

Peace,
cdh

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:35 AM, brandon armstrong wrote:

donna I'm sorry but i am getting real tired of your pointless
questions on this list.
you are coming to the point where i don't want to be here anymore
and i am on the virg of unsubscribing period.
Please stop asking questions that relate to windows on the mac.
thanks.
Brandon
On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

Recently, when searching for text on a webpage using command-F, I
saw a button that said 2 results found, but I seemed to have no
way to actually see the results.  How do you view results when
searching on a webpage?
Thanks,
Donna


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