[macvoiceover] Re: regarding garage band
- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:44:21 -0400
Hi Ginny,
You need to find a popup that says piano or grand piano and interact with
it. This gives you the top level. if it doesn't show up, you need to find
the show instrament details button by using vo-h on the buttons. One thing
to be aware of is that gb is slow to update vo so it is not always
immediately apparent that the screen has changed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: regarding garage band
Thanks for the info. The problem is, I can't see the names of the
instrument categories. VO simply says "Button." Does no one else have this
happen?
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:51 AM
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Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: regarding garage band
Hi Ginny,
I learned a long time ago that I got little out of mainstream instruction so
have resorted to er um other strategies.
The instraments section has two sets of categories and I can access them
with the vo cursor just fine. you first need to select the overall
instrament such as piano, digital synth basic or whatever, then you vo to
the right till you get to the next group, it will say manual. press vo
space on this as you do for the main category which starts with piano and
you can vo down through the list of items such as jazz base. some will show
up depending on what you have selected in the main group such as if the main
group selection is guitar, you will see guitar related items in the group
that starts with "manual". I hope this makes some sense.
I have also figured out that if you press command-shift-k to bring up the
musical keyboard, you can use window chooser menu to move to the main window
but I don't know if there is a keystroke for it. If you press command-i,
you will open track info and you have to make sure that digital instrament
and not master track is selected when dealing with instraments. You may be
able to look under the file menu to switch among tracks but I haven't yet
dome more than one track so cannot speak directly to this. Someone did
discuss choosing among loops but I do not recall how this is done.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] regarding garage band
Well, I've been one of those folks who has spent lots of time in one-to-one
training at the Apple store and then coming home to try to make some sense
of what we as visually impaired users can actually accomplish with garage
band. Here are a few of the problems I've uncovered. Please let me know if
there are work-arounds for these problems, because if there are, then we
should definitely put our heads together and come up with a guide for VO
users.
1. The track listing is not accessible. I can record a track, and then
I can record a new track, but I can't then go and select one of those tracks
and edit it because I can't access a track list.
2. The list of provided instruments isn't labeled. I think it would be
possible to memorize where each instrument list is, but then when you click
on the main instrument, you have to select categories within that instrument
which are also not accessible. Once you can actually get to a list of
instruments-say, jazz bass, you can read through the various names of the
jazz bass sound options. However, getting to that point is incredibly
challenging.
3. I can't figure out a way to drag and drop the provided instruments
or loops into a track.I can only listen to their samples.
4. There doesn't seem to be a way to edit individual tracks.
I'd love to know if you guys have found work-arounds for these issues,
because if garage band's not quite accessible, I'm going to have to resort
to Cakewalk. <sad sigh>
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