[macvoiceover] Re: quick nav or not to quick nav: was: Re: Re: links in mail
- From: Sam Troia <samtroia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:38:36 -0500
At this point it will most likely come with Snow Leopard installed. But even
if it's only Leopard, you can still turn Voiceover on with command-f5 and
install sl, providing yu have the disc of course.
On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Stephanie wrote:
> will my new mac book pro come with snow lepard? A friend of mine says I'll
> have to install that to get voice over working...
> Steph
> At 12:31 PM 24/12/2009, you wrote:
>> Yeah, it's in Snow Lepard. I thought you had it and therefore, I was a
>> little confused about why you were talking about the VO lock.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a Mac User!!!
>>
>> Phone:
>> +1 (985) 360-3614
>>
>> E-mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
>>
>> That doesn't work in Leopard; I just tried it. That must be new in Snow
>> Leopard, which I don't have, as yet. I was going to get it but my wife
>> talked me out of it. I have the sneaking suspicion my kids are getting it
>> for me. But thanks for the correction. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage,
>> Alaska.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>
>> Uh, I have to correct you on this one Rich.
>>
>> Quick nav is not activated by pressing control+option+semicolon. It's
>> activated by pressing the left and right arrow keys together. Once you've
>> done this, just press left right up and down arrows by themselves. To
>> interact with an item, press down and right arrows together. To stop
>> interacting, press down and left together. To activate an item, press up
>> and down together. To turn quick nav off, press left and right together.
>> What you were talking about was not quick nav; rather, it was the voice over
>> lock feature, which, I mainly use when selecting items non contiguously.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a Mac User!!!
>>
>> Phone:
>> +1 (985) 360-3614
>>
>> E-mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
>>
>> To activate Quick Nav, press VO+semicolon; Quick Nav is a way to lock the VO
>> keys so that they don't have to be pressed continually. And because it's a
>> toggle command, you can either turn Quick Nav on or off. When the VO keys
>> are locked, it's a way to use the arrow keys similarly to using them in
>> Windows, but without pressing the VO keys. Hope this makes sense. Richie
>> Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Joe Plummer wrote:
>>
>> Ok, but how does it work?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:19 PM
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: quick nav or not to quick nav: was: Re: Re:
>> links in mail
>>
>> Well Steph,
>>
>> Quick Nav is a way to use the arrow keys to navigate in Voice Over without
>> having to use the key combinations control+command with the right and left
>> arrow keys. If one has either a full Mac keyboard with the number key pad,
>> this is a moot point; since, after all, one can use the numpad commander to
>> do the very same thing. Now, if one does not have a built in number keypad
>> on the keyboard itself, quick nav does provide a very physically convenient
>> way to navigate with Voice Over so that one does not, (under most
>> circumstances) need to use the control+option+right or left arrow keys. I
>> do like it, but, as I say, for some strange reason, I drifted away from
>> using it after the second week or so. You, however, may find yourself
>> preferring it. It's a matter really of trying it out and seeing if you like
>> it.
>>
>> Merry Christmas.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a Mac User!!!
>>
>> Phone:
>> +1 (985) 360-3614
>>
>> E-mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Stephanie wrote:
>>
>> What exactly is this?
>> I can't wait to get my mac book pro tomorrow for Christmas.
>> Steph
>> At 09:24 AM 24/12/2009, you wrote:
>> > You know Judy, it's funny you should mention quick nav. When I first got
>> my Mac book Pro, I told myself that I'd almost never use the regular
>> command+option combination for the VO+* key strokes; instead, I'd use only
>> quick nav or else the Mac compatible number keypad. Guess what, though, I
>> did start out using quick nav for maybe the first week or so; but now, I
>> find, (perhaps ironically), that I almost never use quick nav anymore. I
>> must admit quite frankly that I surprised myself when I discovered that I
>> now usually use the regular VO keys. Why, I think maybe I know why. It has
>> to do with web navigation. If I'm entering a password in a password field,
>> I can't use quick nav to get quickly to the next field or button but must
>> use the regular VO keys. As for the USB number keypad, That's another
>> physical piece of equipment to lug around and so I just don't do it. When I
>> have my Mac book Pro on my lap in my living room and I'm watching a DVD in
>> 5.1 channel sound on my AV receiver, the last thing I want is to worry about
>> my USB number key pad. I find myself drifting more and more away from quick
>> nav; which, I must say, really is not what I expected. Still, it might be
>> good to play with it just to keep in practice.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reminder that it even exists.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>> >
>> > Now a Mac User!!!
>> >
>> > Phone:
>> > +1 (985) 360-3614
>> >
>> > E-mail:
>> > rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> >
>> > Skype Name:
>> > barefootedray
>> >
>> > On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Judy Wilkinson wrote:
>> >
>> > I asked the original question and was chagrined the answer was so easy, bt
>> I want to add that I'm now doing many things with quick-nav such as opening
>> docs, expanding the attachments toggle, etc. saves a keystroke or two.
>> > Judy
>> >
>> > On Dec 23, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, Nicole,
>> >>
>> >> You're skipping the first step. Before you press VO+space on a link,
>> you need to interact with the text. To do so, press vo+shift+down arrow.
>> >>
>> >> HTH.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>> >>
>> >> Now a Mac User!!!
>> >>
>> >> Phone:
>> >> +1 (985) 360-3614
>> >>
>> >> E-mail:
>> >> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> >>
>> >> Skype Name:
>> >> barefootedray
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Nicole Hutchins wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Group,
>> >> I saw the message a few days ago about copying a link from mail, but
>> when I did vo space, it didn't work for me. Am I missing something?
>> >> Thanks, Nicole
>> >>
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