Hi Dan, thanks for answering my question in this message, so you can disregard the message I just wrote before I had read your second message. On Fri, 29 May 2009 14:43:04 -0700, Dan wrote: Hi, Just after you press the power key make sure you are holding down the keys and wait till you hear the second chime. This is how I do it. First I place my fingers on the P R and Command keys, then I hit the power button and place a finger on the Option key. Then I wait till I hear the second chime before I release them. Dan On May 29, 2009, at 1:40 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > Marty, > > to set the pram, you have to use the power button when the computer > is off so I don't know what is meant in the article and of course, > it is not here for me to look at. > > On May 29, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Marty Rimpau wrote: > > Hi all, the article says to press the combination of keys discussed > in the article, but it says to do so before the gray screen appears, > so how do we know when that is, or do we just hold these keys down > right when we hear the start-up chime? I know that is why the > article was forwarded to the list, buut many of us don't have > sighted assistance, so just wondering about this. > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >> below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the >> Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >> below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the >> Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >