[macvoiceover] Re: macbook battery menu query

Travis, that's the point though, this is not about telling VO what to read, when you change that setting you're merely changing a style of the visual display. It so happens that VO can't read that particular element of the display, but it can read what is in the menus associated with it. So VO is reading the data that it can.


This is thusly, also not about VO interpreting anything. It simply cannot read the battery icon as such, as it is an icon. I do agree with you that much of the interpretation that VO does with text can be quite annoying and also a hindrance in some cases as well, but this is a different issue.

  HTH and have a great day!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)

On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:01 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

If what you say is accurate, then apple should change the voiceover prompts to reflect what voiceover is speaking. I don't give a damned what's displayed on the screen if my screen reader isn't reading it. This is something I keep complaining to apple about, and will continue to do so. A scren reader's job is to read the screen, not interpret said data, that's my job. All this reading roman numerals as arabic numbers, speaking abbriviations as full words (often times incorrectly) and now, this time/percent thing is plain and simple, a bug. If voiceover is seeing percent, then the voiceover prompt should say percent, and if the option I set says time remaining, then vo should report to me time remaining.
There's no reason why it should do otherwise.
If apple wants to leave it the way it is, then they should make it clear in the location where this option is set that it's *not* the vo output that we're changing, but the visual output. If that was done, then I'd drop my insistence that it's a bug, but until either one is done (and honestly, I don't care which, either one would solve the problem) as far as I'm concerned, vo is not reading what I told it to read, and therefore, it's a bug.




On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

<smile> Differ all you like, but this is not a bug. When you set percentage, VO speaks the time, because the percentage is what is showing up visually for the icon and the time is shown in the menu. Then, when you set it to show time, VO will speak the percentage, which shows up in the menu while the time is displayed for the battery icon.

VO is speaking what appears in the menus and not the visually displayed info with the icon itself. Feel free to get visual assistance to verify this if you like…

You may feel that this behavior is inappropriate but that's not the same as a bug, yes?…

Have a great night!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Jul 7, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

I beg to differ. When selecting percentage, vo most definitely speaks time remaining as hours/minutes. When you select time remaining, vo speaks the remaining time as a percentage of 100 for remaining battery life.
Try it yourself, and you'll see this is what happens.


On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

this is not a bug. When you set that option, you're setting a visual option, not an auditory one. thusly, no bug! <smile> the auditory feedback you're getting from VO is simply a voicing of the status in the menu itself, and not actually reflecting the visual status of the icon.

HTH and have a great day!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

The time/percent options are reversed. (and it's still that in leopard, despite numerous bug reports on the matter)
Just set it to whichever one you want, then try it out.
I use icon mode myself, but choose what works best for you.


On Jul 7, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Scott Rutkowski wrote:

Hi all.

Just wondering when you bring up the battery menu and choose show, you have an option for time and or percentage. Can anyone tell me what the percentage option is for? I've selected percentage and when looking in the battery menu there's no percentage option shown. It is showing me in hours how much battery capacity is left.
Thanks to anyone who may know something about this.



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