[macvoiceover] Re: iphone 4s

 hi recardo,

 i feel that the iPhone.
 is the best accessible. phone out there.

 it's really cool!

On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I completely understand.  But its one of those things where, it seems hard to 
> justify, until you have it.  my iPhone has replaced so many different blind 
> related gadgets, and just gadgets in general, it might be the most valuable 
> thing I own.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Mary Scott <bluespruce7@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for all the encouragement.  I am sure I can master it.  I am having a 
>> hard time justifying the cost and data plan. Mel
>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>> 
>>> The key to becoming more adept at udsing the phone is to do just that, use 
>>> it, from the apps to especially the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> You won't improve by avoiding the tough stuff, only by tackling each thing 
>>> and staying with it.  The iphone may not be for everyone, but the only way 
>>> to give it a fair shake is to work with it daily, and often.  Practice is 
>>> the key!
>>> 
>>> Marcy
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I was learning my iPhone someone gave me good advice. Pick on ething 
>>> to learn on the unit to get used to the keyboard. For me it was replacing a 
>>> straight up cell phone I did some texting on, so it was using the phone 
>>> just as a phone, then soon adding in use of  the keyboard, and then on to 
>>> web browsing and texting. It didn't take all that long. I stayed away from 
>>> adding a zillion apps and tryign to learn them the first day I had the 
>>> phone.
>>> 
>>> I also found it helpful to find someone who already knew it to ask.
>>> 
>>> I also found that it works much better in practice than it does in theory, 
>>> and just having it explained wasn't enough. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2012-03-26, at 11:47 AM, Mary Scott wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't understand how a blind person can learn to be accurate on the 
>>>> touch screen keypad without going crazy.  Is it possible or are people 
>>>> going crazy?
>>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I do not want to be mean or discourage anyone from a tool they use or 
>>>>> found useful so I will simply speak from my own perspective. The dragon 
>>>>> app is free and it does work, but Siri is 100 times better than dragon 
>>>>> ever could be for the iPhone. Also Siri is integrated into every edit 
>>>>> field of the iPhone. From messages to email Siri will give you the option 
>>>>> to dictate your message. It works and is accurate but the down side is 
>>>>> that there will be times where you will have to correct your spelling if 
>>>>> Siri enters "brain" instead of "Bryan." Avoiding the keyboard is 
>>>>> impossible on a touch screen device. I will also say that Siri gives you 
>>>>> the option to create, edit, and send a message or email but unless there 
>>>>> is no background noise and you can speak clear enough to get every word 
>>>>> clearly heard, edits from the keyboard will be necessary.  
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You may want to check out the Dragon dictation app. When I checked it 
>>>>>> out it was free, and sometimes useful. It was accurate enough for simple 
>>>>>> messages and Facebook posts, the obvious downside was that it wasn't 
>>>>>> integrated into the message program. So you would dicatate your message, 
>>>>>> select text message in the actions menu, then select who it was going 
>>>>>> to. From the support material it looks like the Blackberry version is 
>>>>>> integrated into the message app so you can dictate directly into an edit 
>>>>>> field, so perhaps that is coming for the iPhone version. Maybe it's 
>>>>>> already here, anyone know?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2012-03-26, at 10:30 AM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree with Ricardo Siri is great for some things but for avoiding 
>>>>>>> typing Siri is not! Checking things, searching the web, and having fun 
>>>>>>> Siri is great, sending messages or emails Siri works perfectly about 50 
>>>>>>> percent of the time. There is really no avoiding the on screen keyboard 
>>>>>>> on a touch screen device. I admit the touch keyboard is kind of a pain 
>>>>>>> some times it really is not as bad as most blind people would think. It 
>>>>>>> is pretty good and not very hard to type on. If a keyboard is necessary 
>>>>>>> for you, the iPhone is not for you... 
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Mary Scott wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am very interested to hear updates as to your satisfaction of the 
>>>>>>>> hone.  I want one but I want to know if Siri
>>>>>>>> really works well.  I do not like usuing the keys to text and I want 
>>>>>>>> to know that I really can avoid it before getting one.  MelOn Mar 25, 
>>>>>>>> 2012, at 10:11 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Awesome welcome to the crew! If you go to 
>>>>>>>>> settings>general>accessibility you will find an option to enable 
>>>>>>>>> practice mode. If you do this you can preform all the gesters and 
>>>>>>>>> hear them spoken to you. Also if you navigate to 
>>>>>>>>> settings>general>accessibility the last option in this list is the 
>>>>>>>>> home button function for triple tap.. This is where you will set 
>>>>>>>>> voiceover to be assigned to triple tap of the home button. Hope this 
>>>>>>>>> helps...
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Don wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just got an  iphohne, can someone tell me where to find all the 
>>>>>>>>>> gestures, or send me a list of them. Also where do I go to set the 
>>>>>>>>>> home button to turn on and off voice over, I can't find it. Thanks 
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     -- 
>>> Marcy
>>> Hope you're having a nice day!
>>> 
>> 
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