[macvoiceover] Re: iphone 4s

Thanks for all the encouragement.  I am sure I can master it.  I am having a 
hard time justifying the cost and data plan. Mel
On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:

> The key to becoming more adept at udsing the phone is to do just that, use 
> it, from the apps to especially the keyboard.
> 
> You won't improve by avoiding the tough stuff, only by tackling each thing 
> and staying with it.  The iphone may not be for everyone, but the only way to 
> give it a fair shake is to work with it daily, and often.  Practice is the 
> key!
> 
> Marcy
> 
> On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
> 
> When I was learning my iPhone someone gave me good advice. Pick on ething to 
> learn on the unit to get used to the keyboard. For me it was replacing a 
> straight up cell phone I did some texting on, so it was using the phone just 
> as a phone, then soon adding in use of  the keyboard, and then on to web 
> browsing and texting. It didn't take all that long. I stayed away from adding 
> a zillion apps and tryign to learn them the first day I had the phone.
> 
> I also found it helpful to find someone who already knew it to ask.
> 
> I also found that it works much better in practice than it does in theory, 
> and just having it explained wasn't enough. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012-03-26, at 11:47 AM, Mary Scott wrote:
> 
>> I don't understand how a blind person can learn to be accurate on the touch 
>> screen keypad without going crazy.  Is it possible or are people going crazy?
>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>> 
>>> I do not want to be mean or discourage anyone from a tool they use or found 
>>> useful so I will simply speak from my own perspective. The dragon app is 
>>> free and it does work, but Siri is 100 times better than dragon ever could 
>>> be for the iPhone. Also Siri is integrated into every edit field of the 
>>> iPhone. From messages to email Siri will give you the option to dictate 
>>> your message. It works and is accurate but the down side is that there will 
>>> be times where you will have to correct your spelling if Siri enters 
>>> "brain" instead of "Bryan." Avoiding the keyboard is impossible on a touch 
>>> screen device. I will also say that Siri gives you the option to create, 
>>> edit, and send a message or email but unless there is no background noise 
>>> and you can speak clear enough to get every word clearly heard, edits from 
>>> the keyboard will be necessary.  
>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You may want to check out the Dragon dictation app. When I checked it out 
>>>> it was free, and sometimes useful. It was accurate enough for simple 
>>>> messages and Facebook posts, the obvious downside was that it wasn't 
>>>> integrated into the message program. So you would dicatate your message, 
>>>> select text message in the actions menu, then select who it was going to. 
>>>> From the support material it looks like the Blackberry version is 
>>>> integrated into the message app so you can dictate directly into an edit 
>>>> field, so perhaps that is coming for the iPhone version. Maybe it's 
>>>> already here, anyone know?
>>>> 
>>>> Ian
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-03-26, at 10:30 AM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with Ricardo Siri is great for some things but for avoiding 
>>>>> typing Siri is not! Checking things, searching the web, and having fun 
>>>>> Siri is great, sending messages or emails Siri works perfectly about 50 
>>>>> percent of the time. There is really no avoiding the on screen keyboard 
>>>>> on a touch screen device. I admit the touch keyboard is kind of a pain 
>>>>> some times it really is not as bad as most blind people would think. It 
>>>>> is pretty good and not very hard to type on. If a keyboard is necessary 
>>>>> for you, the iPhone is not for you... 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Mary Scott wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am very interested to hear updates as to your satisfaction of the 
>>>>>> hone.  I want one but I want to know if Siri
>>>>>>  really works well.  I do not like usuing the keys to text and I want to 
>>>>>> know that I really can avoid it before getting one.  MelOn Mar 25, 2012, 
>>>>>> at 10:11 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Awesome welcome to the crew! If you go to 
>>>>>>> settings>general>accessibility you will find an option to enable 
>>>>>>> practice mode. If you do this you can preform all the gesters and hear 
>>>>>>> them spoken to you. Also if you navigate to 
>>>>>>> settings>general>accessibility the last option in this list is the home 
>>>>>>> button function for triple tap.. This is where you will set voiceover 
>>>>>>> to be assigned to triple tap of the home button. Hope this helps...
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Don wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Just got an  iphohne, can someone tell me where to find all the 
>>>>>>>> gestures, or send me a list of them. Also where do I go to set the 
>>>>>>>> home button to turn on and off voice over, I can't find it. Thanks Don
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
>       -- 
> Marcy
> Hope you're having a nice day!
>

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