[macvoiceover] Re: iphone 4s

  • From: Maria From Australia <bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:10:26 +1000

Hi  the touch screen was prety foreign to me, and yes, there was a learning 
curve, but once i got used to it, now its like automatic.  I have some friends 
who r learning and the gestures i think they have the most trouble with is 
probably the roter gesture and the double tap.  once you have those mastered 
though you should be fine.  

Maria and my guide Karly  email bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx


Sent from my iPhone

On 27/03/2012, at 5:04 AM, Mary Scott <bluespruce7@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I admit I am skittish with touch screens.  I do not have any of these devices 
> yet but I plan to soon.  Your description helped me.  Thank you.  I am 
> confident that I can learn it if you did.  Grin
> On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Let me ask you this question... Have you ever used an iPhone, iPod, or iPad? 
>> The reason I ask you this is so that we all know where your questions are 
>> coming from. If you have never used one of these devices here is how it 
>> works for typing. If touch typing is enabled you would drag your finger 
>> along the botom portion of the screen until you hear the letter you want. 
>> When you hear the letter you want to enter spoken you simply lift your 
>> finger and it will be repeated again as it is inserted. Thats it you have 
>> just typed a letter. There is also the option to do standard typing which 
>> works like this. Drag your finger along the bottom of the screen until you 
>> hear the letter you want to input. Once you hear it lift your finger and 
>> double tap the screen and it will insert it and repeat it to let you know it 
>> was entered. The keyboard is layed out on the screen just as a qwerty 
>> keyboard is. So to answer your question no we are not all going crazy 
>> because we have learned how to do it proficiently. I admit I did not think 
>> it was possible in the beginning but now I send lots of messages, twitter, 
>> emails, and search the web with no problem. If you have used one of these 
>> devices forgive my long description and you are entitled to your own opinion 
>> of touch screen devices... 
>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Mary Scott wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't understand how a blind person can learn to be accurate on the touch 
>>> screen keypad without going crazy.  Is it possible or are people going 
>>> crazy?
>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I do not want to be mean or discourage anyone from a tool they use or 
>>>> found useful so I will simply speak from my own perspective. The dragon 
>>>> app is free and it does work, but Siri is 100 times better than dragon 
>>>> ever could be for the iPhone. Also Siri is integrated into every edit 
>>>> field of the iPhone. From messages to email Siri will give you the option 
>>>> to dictate your message. It works and is accurate but the down side is 
>>>> that there will be times where you will have to correct your spelling if 
>>>> Siri enters "brain" instead of "Bryan." Avoiding the keyboard is 
>>>> impossible on a touch screen device. I will also say that Siri gives you 
>>>> the option to create, edit, and send a message or email but unless there 
>>>> is no background noise and you can speak clear enough to get every word 
>>>> clearly heard, edits from the keyboard will be necessary.  
>>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You may want to check out the Dragon dictation app. When I checked it out 
>>>>> it was free, and sometimes useful. It was accurate enough for simple 
>>>>> messages and Facebook posts, the obvious downside was that it wasn't 
>>>>> integrated into the message program. So you would dicatate your message, 
>>>>> select text message in the actions menu, then select who it was going to. 
>>>>> From the support material it looks like the Blackberry version is 
>>>>> integrated into the message app so you can dictate directly into an edit 
>>>>> field, so perhaps that is coming for the iPhone version. Maybe it's 
>>>>> already here, anyone know?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-03-26, at 10:30 AM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree with Ricardo Siri is great for some things but for avoiding 
>>>>>> typing Siri is not! Checking things, searching the web, and having fun 
>>>>>> Siri is great, sending messages or emails Siri works perfectly about 50 
>>>>>> percent of the time. There is really no avoiding the on screen keyboard 
>>>>>> on a touch screen device. I admit the touch keyboard is kind of a pain 
>>>>>> some times it really is not as bad as most blind people would think. It 
>>>>>> is pretty good and not very hard to type on. If a keyboard is necessary 
>>>>>> for you, the iPhone is not for you... 
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Mary Scott wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am very interested to hear updates as to your satisfaction of the 
>>>>>>> hone.  I want one but I want to know if Siri
>>>>>>>  really works well.  I do not like usuing the keys to text and I want 
>>>>>>> to know that I really can avoid it before getting one.  MelOn Mar 25, 
>>>>>>> 2012, at 10:11 PM, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Awesome welcome to the crew! If you go to 
>>>>>>>> settings>general>accessibility you will find an option to enable 
>>>>>>>> practice mode. If you do this you can preform all the gesters and hear 
>>>>>>>> them spoken to you. Also if you navigate to 
>>>>>>>> settings>general>accessibility the last option in this list is the 
>>>>>>>> home button function for triple tap.. This is where you will set 
>>>>>>>> voiceover to be assigned to triple tap of the home button. Hope this 
>>>>>>>> helps...
>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Don wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Just got an  iphohne, can someone tell me where to find all the 
>>>>>>>>> gestures, or send me a list of them. Also where do I go to set the 
>>>>>>>>> home button to turn on and off voice over, I can't find it. Thanks Don
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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