[macvoiceover] Re: info from ms messenger page:

David,
Great information, works just like you said. The only thing I can't find is how to get a sound to tell me when some one has answered my message, but, it does work well. 

Thanks again.

Keith Reedy


On Jun 30, 2008, at 5:16 PM, David Truong wrote:
It's easy to know when to type. When you interact with the html content to read messages, just start typing whenever you want to type a message to someone followed of course by enter. It's true you won't get feedback on what you are typing either by automatic speaking or via your vo cursoring keys. But if you are a good typist then that shouldn't worry you. However, when you start typing, messenger then focuses on the editing field which you don't see smile, which means that messenger will cut out the first couple of letters of your message. So the simple solution is to just type a letter then backspace once and then go for your life. As I said reading incoming messages is easy by simply interacting with the html content. To send a message to someone you can either interact with the scroll area and find the table and interact with that or else do it the easy way and go to menus vo+m find your way to contacts menu and then to send instant message submenu which will list the contacts online. Sound events work as normal as well. I think it's pretty bloody good except for the minor annoyance that I spoke 
of above.

David Truong

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-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 6:57 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: info from ms messenger page:

    I can confirm this as well.  I can't find where to actually type
the outgoing message nor how to start a chat.  Also, finding the
message history is a bit tricky.  Otherwise, most of the controls and
menus work fine.

Take Care

John Panarese

On Jun 30, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:


Just tried the new messenger,
1 I could not figure how to start a message session with some one
except to do it from the menus.

2 I could not figur out where to type the message after a session
was open, no typing echo.

3 I was able to read an in coming message after poking around.

Maybe its just me.

Keith Reedy


On Jun 30, 2008, at 2:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:


   From what I've seen, this is usable.  I did not use earlier
versions, so I can't say how different it is from the past.
However, I had no problems setting up my ID info.  The contact list
is a little funky to deal with, and the preferences, in true
Microsoft form, are a bit odd.  However, it is certainly usable
with VoiceOver, though I'd stick with Adium, personally.  I just
can't figure out where in the world it installs the sounds and
picture options.

Take Care

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On Jun 30, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:


Personally, I'll stick with Adium anyway regardless, as I hate
having multiple messaging clients open. But the more accessible
apps we have the better.


On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:56, Dan Eickmeier wrote:


Same here, I noticed the same things Jacob, so still sticking
with Adium for now

On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Keith Reedy wrote:


Jacob,

This is the kind of info we need, thanks.

Keith Reedy


On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:


Hi
I just tried it and honestly, it doesn't seem much better than
7 was. Maybe I'm missing something but if I type a message I
cannot see what I'm typing, as it's in a web content area. If I
go to read the incoming messages I can do that, however. What's
interesting is that if I turn VO off then on again it reads
much better... until I start typing again, then it goes back to
what I described. The only way I can see what I'm typing is to
interact with the typing HTML area, but even then VO's cursor
and the editing cursor don't follow one another, making editing
almost impossible. There are a lot of unlabeled buttons in the
conversation window's drawer without any help tags as well.
This is what I've found so far, anyone else confirm or deny
this? And if it's working fine for others, what am I missing?
My version of messenger, straight from the about dialog, is
Version 7.0.1 (080527).



On Jun 30, 2008, at 7:02, Keith Reedy wrote:


Well, has any one tried this yet and does it work? I hope to
try it later today.

Keith Reedy


On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:39 AM, David Poehlman wrote:


The delicate terminology here is interesting; *s for emphasis
added by me:
"Messenger for Mac 7.0.1 is an integrated communications
client that enables
you to communicate with contacts within and outside your
organization.
Messenger
for Mac 7.0.1 *improves support for users of the VoiceOver
feature in Mac OS
X,* and it fixes user interface issues that appear when
Messenger is used
with
some European languages."

--
Jonnie Appleseed
With His
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
Reducing Technologies disabilities
one byte at a time



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