Hi David,OK. Now, that makes sense. I was kind of hedging towards believing this to be the case with the edit area, but you have confirmed it. Thank you for the information. The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is where the app keeps the sound and picture options.
Take Care John D. Panarese Managing Director Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc. 9 Nolan Court Hauppauge, NY 11788 Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479 Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Internet, http://www.tvi-web.comAUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA, PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS, DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED
AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jun 30, 2008, at 5:16 PM, David Truong wrote:
It's easy to know when to type. When you interact with the html content to read messages, just start typing whenever you want to type a message to someone followed of course by enter. It's true you won't get feedback on what you are typing either by automatic speaking or via your vo cursoring keys. But if you are a good typist then that shouldn't worry you. However, when you start typing, messenger then focuses on the editing field which you don't see smile, which means that messenger will cut out the first couple of letters of your message. So the simple solution is to just type a letter then backspace once and then go for your life. As I said reading incoming messages is easy by simply interacting with the html content. To send a message to someone you can either interact with the scroll area and find the table and interact with that or else do it the easy way and go to menus vo+m find your way to contacts menu and then to send instant message submenu which will list the contacts online. Sound events work as normal as well. I think it's pretty bloody good except for the minor annoyance that I spokeof above. David Truong EMail and Messenger: davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: blindboxer1967 -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 6:57 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: info from ms messenger page: I can confirm this as well. I can't find where to actually type the outgoing message nor how to start a chat. Also, finding the message history is a bit tricky. Otherwise, most of the controls and menus work fine. Take Care John Panarese On Jun 30, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:Just tried the new messenger, 1 I could not figure how to start a message session with some one except to do it from the menus. 2 I could not figur out where to type the message after a session was open, no typing echo. 3 I was able to read an in coming message after poking around. Maybe its just me. Keith Reedy On Jun 30, 2008, at 2:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:From what I've seen, this is usable. I did not use earlier versions, so I can't say how different it is from the past. However, I had no problems setting up my ID info. The contact list is a little funky to deal with, and the preferences, in true Microsoft form, are a bit odd. However, it is certainly usable with VoiceOver, though I'd stick with Adium, personally. I just can't figure out where in the world it installs the sounds and picture options. Take Care John D. Panarese Managing Director Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc. 9 Nolan Court Hauppauge, NY 11788 Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479 Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA, PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS, DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jun 30, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:Personally, I'll stick with Adium anyway regardless, as I hate having multiple messaging clients open. But the more accessible apps we have the better. On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:56, Dan Eickmeier wrote:Same here, I noticed the same things Jacob, so still sticking with Adium for now On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Keith Reedy wrote:Jacob, This is the kind of info we need, thanks. Keith Reedy On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:Hi I just tried it and honestly, it doesn't seem much better than 7 was. Maybe I'm missing something but if I type a message I cannot see what I'm typing, as it's in a web content area. If I go to read the incoming messages I can do that, however. What's interesting is that if I turn VO off then on again it reads much better... until I start typing again, then it goes back to what I described. The only way I can see what I'm typing is to interact with the typing HTML area, but even then VO's cursor and the editing cursor don't follow one another, making editing almost impossible. There are a lot of unlabeled buttons in the conversation window's drawer without any help tags as well. This is what I've found so far, anyone else confirm or deny this? And if it's working fine for others, what am I missing? My version of messenger, straight from the about dialog, is Version 7.0.1 (080527). On Jun 30, 2008, at 7:02, Keith Reedy wrote:Well, has any one tried this yet and does it work? I hope to try it later today. Keith Reedy On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:39 AM, David Poehlman wrote:The delicate terminology here is interesting; *s for emphasis added by me: "Messenger for Mac 7.0.1 is an integrated communications client that enables you to communicate with contacts within and outside your organization. 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