[macvoiceover] Re: getting windows out of your head:

Everett, to answer your question on Skype contacts, if you set up your contact list to show groups, and then check the option to show the online group, you'll have your online contacts neatly displayed in your contact list under the online heading.


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On Feb 3, 2009, at 8:55 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

David,

What about when an application isn't providng the correct feedback? Isn't it reasonable to want to write a script to get the correct information from that application and then to use Voiceover to present it? For example, I would like to know the online status of contacts in Skype, which is currently not spoken, I would like to be able to navigate web pages in safari by ARIA landmarks.

Thanks,
Everett


On 3-Feb-09, at 12:50 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

I am right on both counts. The what could be needs to be approached quite carefully and I covered that in my previous message. For more food for thought, consider this. Apple providing scripting for accessibility will be lamented as not comparable with JAWS but nonetheless, for voiceover and universal access, it would be the correct solution. As I said in my message, accessibility is about being able to carry out tasks and getting proper feedback.

On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:45 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

Why not compare the differences and say Voiceover does one thing better, but another thing not quite as well.

I think you are right when talking about what is, but not when talking about what could be.

Everett


On 3-Feb-09, at 12:25 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

The discussion on scripting prompts me to write this. It is important that we look at voiceover in terms of voiceover and the mac os. When we attempt to do otherwise, we muddy the watters for ourselves and others. It is one thing to say that we need a way to carry out functions and be provided with proper feedback and information. It is quite another to expect that what works in windows can be applied to mac os.


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