Hi David, in snow leopard, under web, in voice over utilities, there is a menu button for the items in the rotar, and I can vo space bar on this, and uncheck what items I feel are redundant in the rotar such as headings, forms, etcetera, since we have those key strokes anyway, but when I vo right arrow to try and get out of the rotar, I don't hear anything, so that is why I'm asking because the only way I could think of to get out of that menu button is to press escape, but I think this should have been a pop-up, then you could have vo right arrowed to get out of the pop-up, because one shouldn't have to try and think of a way to get out of a particular control when there doesn't seem to be any instruction to do so. On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 07:13:34 -0400, David Poehlman wrote: sorry, we need more. On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Marty Rimpau wrote: Hi all, I tried getting out of the menu button for the rotar by vo right arrowing, but I couldn't hear anything, so I pressed escape, so how do you exit a menu button, and thanks in advance very much. > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the > Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > Marty