[macvoiceover] Re: for the unix Geeks

VoiceOver works in a limited way with the terminal which means that it work with the programs you mentioned with all work in the terminal. Most UNIX programs are command line type programs and not interactive. For example troff is a text formating program. You write a text file with commands embedded in it run troff with the filename as a command line parameter and get back formatted text either to standard out, the terminal screen, or, more likely, to a file. In such cased VoiceOver plays only a limited role.

Greg Kearney
On Dec 9, 2006, at 15:08 , macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Greg! thanks for such a wonderfully detailed explaination. Glad you new what I was talking about.. I'll share this wonderful news with my sister. Hmm, wonder if now she will buy one? Do you know if voiceover will work in VI or TRoff?
On Dec 9, 2006, at 2:58 PM, macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Yes, in fact when you use a Mac your using a UNIX computer, it's just that most of the UNIX stuff is hidden.

Not only that the Mac comes with all the standard UNIX tools such as the vi editor and troff and such already installed and ready to use. Open the terminal program in the Utilities directory of the Applications directory and your ready to go. Further if you need to compile other programs you can install the developers tools that came on the system disk with your mac. Then you get the latest c compilers, libraries and such.

There are a number of services that offer pre-compiled UNIX programs for the Mac including Darwin Ports http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/ So the answer is yes the Mac is a full UNIX computer

Greg Kearney


On Dec 9, 2006, at 07:44 , macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Good morning all. My sister is a unix geek and would like to know if it is possible to install and run unix programs such as VI the visual editing program and I am sure I am spelling this rong TRoff and ENRoff? Please! don't snicker at me yet. I have no idea what I am talking about but I am sure there are those on the list that do. I realize that this would be done from terminal on the command line levil. Thanks.s


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