See responses inline: On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:Has anyone done a W3C/WAI User Agent Guidelines (UAG) "scorecard" for Safari with VO? A number of years back, a fellow from Montreal used to publish such a beast comparing various versions of JAWS, Window- Eyes and HPR. On a line by line basis, every item in the UAG was tested and the result was a very objective look at how well the Windows screen readers performed vis a vis the guidelines.
Last I looked, all the current at vendors fail miserably but there are alot of reasons for this since ats are not web browsers. Having said that, where the guidelines are complied with on the web, at often shines if you know how to use it. Have a look at some of the aria implementation work for instance. While not perfect, it is improving. as for apple, we saw something recently about support for aria excepting landmarks which seem to be illusive at best.
If we really care about web accessibility we need our At vendors to buy into the guidelines or web developers will continue to use the excuse, "It works with JAWS..." and forget about true compliance which is the duty of the AT and web developers together.
Web develloppers will continue to fly in the teeth of reality as long as the enterprise lives in another world.
cdh On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:00 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
sweet, do you have an example you can point me to? On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote: It does work. On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:38 AM, David Poehlman wrote:all; This is for the web techies!can you please tell us whether if the summary attribute is used on a table it is picked up as such by vo?Thanks!Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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