Hi, Phil, First of all, if you are interested in the MAC for Safari, mail, and text edit, those are primarily what I use my MAC for, and have little to no problems. I found the bug where mail crashes when you try to create a second signature, and Apple has been apprised of it. Knowing them, it will be fixed as soon as possible, in the next mini-update, I would presume. I have not had mail crash at any time, and have had no other problems when it comes to mail. I read mail with the preview pain (note the spelling grin) closed, but that is personal preference. I do get busies in Safari sometimes, but if they last more than about 30 seconds or so, I turn vo off and then on again with command-f5 and the problem is resolved. I have had no problems in text edit, and find it a fine word processing app. As has been pointed out, this list is to discuss vo on the mac, and of course those who post are going to be asking questions, most times about problems they are having. As for me, I switched to a MAC almost 9 months ago, and have not looked back even once! Hope this helps! Marcy On Nov 26, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Phil Stephenson wrote: > Hi, > > Jumping in on this thread to say I've actually begun to have second thoughts > myself about switching to a Mac in view of recent traffic about problems > with Mail, Safari etc. I know even Macs aren't perfect and I have a number > of reasons for being unhappy with Windows however I have been watching this > list for a good few weeks now and have been rather disconcerted by the > number of issues people seem to be having with VO and their Macs. > > As I say I was (an maybe still am) very close to switching and was in fact > just looking up specs and prices yesterday and and planning on buying > post-Christmas however I have to say I am now having real second > thoughts....sad really as I've been toying with switching for over 3 years > now and I did think it was at a point where it made more sense than ever but > for the additional outlay of buying a MAC I am hoping to get a robust system > that doesn't crash like my Windows kit and where I can at least use the > standard mac apps such as Mail, Safari and Text Edit without any problems > other than the learning curve I know I will have to face. > > So I'm rather confused and disillusioned, sorry folks but I'm telling it how > I see it, I'm not saying Macs are bad and Windows machines are better rather > that I don't think a Mac is as reliable or robust a solution as I thought it > would be. > > Your comments appreciated, > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carlene knight > Sent: 26 November 2009 19:53 > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] crashing programs > > Hi: > > I am really getting discouraged as my system is not acting as I always heard > a Mac should. In fact it's getting to the point where I crash programs on a > daily basis. Some people are having trouble with Safari but for me it's the > other programs. Last night I crashed ITunes and Mail both at the same time > in fact. It's intermittent. 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