[macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs

Russell,

I am having no trouble in selecting text on a website.

Please, lets not confuse the things that thae MAC can't do with the things you can't do with the MAC.

Remember, you are still learning and so are we all.

Keith Reedy
On Nov 28, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

Hey Phil,

No worries! You should have seen all the questions I sent to the list before buying my Mac. And everyone was great about it. From what you say you wish to do, I'm sure the Mac will be fine. In a lot of ways it's fun to use the Mac, but there are still a few annoyances, like selecting text on a web page that hopefully will be worked out soon.

I'm not sorry I bought a Mac, but would not be able to get by without my old Windows machine to do the things the Mac can't do yet.

Cheers,

Russell
On 2009-11-27, at 2:17 PM, Phil Stephenson wrote:

Hi Krysten and all who've replied on this thread,

I in no way was wanting to turn it into a mac versus Windows debate as I do know they are different and do different things however the thing for me is I don't want to have to run 2 systems. I would still use windows at work as I need this for using he many Office apps and other more specialist stuff but at home I want to do email, surf the web, read and produce basic text docs as well as manage music, write blogs and stay in touch with friends and
family via social networking sites and communication programs.

Ok I'll leave this topic alone now but my questions / concerns were honest
and coming from a genuine point of enquiry.

Cheers all,

Phil


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kristyn Leigh
Sent: 27 November 2009 15:32
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs

I have been following this list for a couple months. I have found links to helpful resources and tips about various programs and VoiceOver commands. The discussion about problems has not discouraged me from buying a Mac. I have seen huge improvements in accessibility since Tiger. Of course I wish Office was accessible on the Mac with VoiceOver, but I'm not going to let that stop me from using a Mac for applications which are accessible. I will keep my Windows XP machine for programs that don't run on a Mac. I will
never pay for another screen reader SMA.

I am tired of the arguments about whether Mac is better than Windows. I have accepted the fact that they are different, and I will try to use both for
the features I need.

Kristyn



-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Stephenson
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:44 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: crashing programs

        Hi,

Jumping in on this thread to say I've actually begun to have second thoughts myself about switching to a Mac in view of recent traffic about problems with Mail, Safari etc. I know even Macs aren't perfect and I have a number of reasons for being unhappy with Windows however I have been watching this list for a good few weeks now and have been rather disconcerted by the
number of issues people seem to be having with VO and their Macs.

As I say I was (an maybe still am) very close to switching and was in fact
just looking up specs and prices yesterday and and planning on buying
post-Christmas however I have to say I am now having real second
thoughts....sad really as I've been toying with switching for over 3 years now and I did think it was at a point where it made more sense than ever but for the additional outlay of buying a MAC I am hoping to get a robust system that doesn't crash like my Windows kit and where I can at least use the standard mac apps such as Mail, Safari and Text Edit without any problems
other than the learning curve I know I will have to face.

So I'm rather confused and disillusioned, sorry folks but I'm telling it how I see it, I'm not saying Macs are bad and Windows machines are better rather that I don't think a Mac is as reliable or robust a solution as I thought it
would be.

Your comments appreciated,

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carlene knight
Sent: 26 November 2009 19:53
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] crashing programs

Hi:

I am really getting discouraged as my system is not acting as I always heard a Mac should. In fact it's getting to the point where I crash programs on a daily basis. Some people are having trouble with Safari but for me it's the other programs. Last night I crashed ITunes and Mail both at the same time in fact. It's intermittent. I think it might have something to do with VO and Snow leopard as my sighted husband who doesn't use VO has no problems.
Has anybody else had trouble with programs crashing on a daily basis?
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