Actually, the screen curtain just puts a black image up on the screen, but the screen will still draw power. You can tell this because, if the curtain is on, you can look at the screen from odd angles and still see the shimmer of the backlight running. If the brightness is set at 100%, you can feel at the bottom of the screen after some time passes, and still feel the heat from the light running for the entire time. Maybe this isn't true on all Macs, but it seems to be the case on my MBP, at least. Bryan ________________________________ From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:23 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus If you turn the screen curtain on with vo shift f11 you will be basically turning the display off. Every time you restart the computer or turn vo on and off the screen is on again, though. On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: I'll try to adjust them separately to see what difference it makes. Brightness = 0 is mostly fine for me, since I don't need to see the display, but another problem is that brightness doesn't stay at 0. Rebooting throws display brightness back to 100%. Also, sleeping and waking the MBP doesn't bring brightness up to 100%, but it takes it off of 0. There are some other situations when brightness automatically changes, but they aren't coming to mind at the moment. I think logging out and back in does, too. Wish there was a way to make the setting stick. 100% brightness will drain the battery fast, and I don't always catch it until it has been sucking down the battery for 20-30 minutes! Bryan ________________________________ From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:23 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus you can have the display sleep without the screen saver, but come to think of it it might be sleep that does it too. I'd have to check that one. can you turn the color brightness to 0 or do you need to see it? On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: But I need the display to sleep on my computer. This is a MacBook Pro, and I don't want to drain the battery. Shouldn't VoiceOver only make such an announcement when the screen saver comes on? Maybe VoiceOver talking interrupts the screen saver? Bryan ________________________________ From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:48 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus set your screen saver time out to never oops! On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: I've noticed that VoiceOver will, about every 2 minutes, repeat the current window or focus when I leave the computer unattended. For example, if I'm in the finder with the focus on the Macintosh HD icon, every two minutes or so, VoiceOver will automatically say finder, desktop, Macintosh HD, selected item. This will happen over and over and over again. This is on a new MacBook Pro. I have hardly any 3rd party software installed. Do I have an incorrect setting? Could this maybe have something to do with some sort of energy saver or screen saver stuff? Bryan