[macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
- From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:34:24 -0400
another consideration to take into account is that the newer monitors do not
suffer from burn in. The lcds they use are quite long lasting and I've not
seen one fail in my 5 years of working with macs.
On Oct 29, 2009, at 3:50 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
As a follow-up, I sent info about this bug to the accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
address, but didn't receive any sort of response, not even an automated one.
Not encouraging.
Bryan
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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:58 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
Good find, you should sent it to:
accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:15 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
OK. Figured out something about this.
The screen saver is not at fault.
The announcement is caused when the Mac tries to put the display to sleep. In
Energy saver, change the display sleep time to 1 minute. When you do, VoiceOver
will repeat the focus once per minute.
Looking in to this further, it seems that display sleep is entirely broken when
VoiceOver is running. You can trigger display sleep at any time by pressing
control+shift+eject. If you press this key while VoiceOver is running, the
display briefly blinks off, then back on, and VoiceOver announces the current
focus. If you turn off VoiceOver, then pressing this key puts the display to
sleep until you press a key or touch the trackpad.
SO, it seems that VoiceOver breaks display sleep.
This isn't good. On my MBP, I have display brightness normally set to 0% to
conserve the battery, but I bet this still pulls power.
Even on machines that aren't portables, this isn't good. When you set display
sleep time to never, a warning appears that never allowing the display to sleep
will decrease its life. They probably mean that you'll burn out the light
eventually, or that the display might have some sort of burn-in damage.
Does anyone know how to present and/or file VoiceOver bugs?
Bryan
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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:23 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
you can have the display sleep without the screen saver, but come to think of
it it might be sleep that does it too. I'd have to check that one. can you
turn the color brightness to 0 or do you need to see it?
On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
But I need the display to sleep on my computer. This is a MacBook Pro, and I
don't want to drain the battery.
Shouldn't VoiceOver only make such an announcement when the screen saver comes
on? Maybe VoiceOver talking interrupts the screen saver?
Bryan
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:48 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
set your screen saver time out to never oops!
On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
I've noticed that VoiceOver will, about every 2 minutes, repeat the current
window or focus when I leave the computer unattended.
For example, if I'm in the finder with the focus on the Macintosh HD icon,
every two minutes or so, VoiceOver will automatically say
finder, desktop, Macintosh HD, selected item.
This will happen over and over and over again.
This is on a new MacBook Pro. I have hardly any 3rd party software installed.
Do I have an incorrect setting? Could this maybe have something to do with some
sort of energy saver or screen saver stuff?
Bryan
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