[macvoiceover] Re: Voice Over not reading text
- From: "Ron J." <Ganahee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:50:48 -0500
Greg,
I've never seen this in text I've experienced the problem with. Many
times, when I've encountered the problem, it seemed as though VO
choked when transitioning from one block of text to another. It
seems that, many times, there appears to be a blank line there. That
seems to be where I encounter that "trill" sound VO Makes.
As mentioned by someone else, previously, I've also had problems
reading some PDF documents, although I haven't read a whole lot of
them. Generally, I usually encounter this problem, mainly in eMail,
some text files, and reading profile info, as I mentioned earlier.
This Perl code: This is to be run from the command line, correct?
Will this help fix the problem in PDFs, or just plain text files, RTF
files, etc?
Thanks!
Ron
On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
Ron;
Any text between double square brackets [[ ]] is assumed to be an
embedded speech command and will not be read. Below is a bit of
perl code which should remove such from any file you direct it at.
/usr/bin/perl -pi -e 's/\[\[|\]\]//g' /path/to/file
This is a known bug in VoiceOver and has been reported to Apple.
Greg
On Jul 25, 2007, at 15:37 , Ron J. wrote:
Gabe,
Some questions for you then:
1. Could these Speech Manager commands, which you think are
embeded in the text, and are freaking out VO, be the reason why VO
sometimes makes a "trilling" sound when reading text? I've had
this happen while reading messages in Mail, editing feilds in
iTunes, reading profile info in Adium X,, etc.
2. Couldn't a program be written to analyze text for these
strings and remove them?
3. Could an AppleScript be ritten to do this in various
applications?
4. Could some sort of a "system-wide" plugin, patch, or module,
be written to monitor any text you're reading, be it in Mail,
Preview, an editor, etc, and intercept these codes, before VO gets
them and freaks?
I'm not a programmer, so maybe I'm all wet on this one. I'm just
a rank amateur, when it comes to OS X, but, given the fact that
the core of OS X is open-source, I'm actually surprised that there
aren't any plugins, patches, or modules for augmenting VO. Just
my thoughts....
Ron
On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:22 AM, The BlindTechs Network wrote:
again, my suspect is that VO via the speech channel it is using
is reading the lines that it is not speaking on a speech manager
commands and therefore not reading do to a command syntax error
or something to that affect.
Gabe Vega
The BlindTech----tech of all techs
Board of directors Arizona Council of the Blind
Phoenix
602-903-3852
skype theblindtech
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Ron;Any text between double square brackets [[ ]] is assumed to be an embedded speech command and will not be read. Below is a bit of perl code which should remove such from any file you direct it at.
/usr/bin/perl -pi -e 's/\[\[|\]\]//g' /path/to/file This is a known bug in VoiceOver and has been reported to Apple. Greg On Jul 25, 2007, at 15:37 , Ron J. wrote:
Gabe, Some questions for you then:1. Could these Speech Manager commands, which you think are embeded in the text, and are freaking out VO, be the reason why VO sometimes makes a "trilling" sound when reading text? I've had this happen while reading messages in Mail, editing feilds in iTunes, reading profile info in Adium X,, etc.2. Couldn't a program be written to analyze text for these strings and remove them?3. Could an AppleScript be ritten to do this in various applications?4. Could some sort of a "system-wide" plugin, patch, or module, be written to monitor any text you're reading, be it in Mail, Preview, an editor, etc, and intercept these codes, before VO gets them and freaks?I'm not a programmer, so maybe I'm all wet on this one. I'm just a rank amateur, when it comes to OS X, but, given the fact that the core of OS X is open-source, I'm actually surprised that there aren't any plugins, patches, or modules for augmenting VO. Just my thoughts....Ron On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:22 AM, The BlindTechs Network wrote:again, my suspect is that VO via the speech channel it is using is reading the lines that it is not speaking on a speech manager commands and therefore not reading do to a command syntax error or something to that affect.Gabe Vega The BlindTech----tech of all techs Board of directors Arizona Council of the Blind Phoenix 602-903-3852 skype theblindtechRon J. | AKA Ganahee"For millions of years, mankind lived, just like the animals. Then something happened, which unleashed the power of our imagination - we learned to talk."From the MD "The Division Bell", the track "Keep Talking".Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverUsers can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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