[macvoiceover] Re: Top and bottom of document

  • From: Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:17:14 -0400

Here is a site where you can find lots of guides and helps from an end users 
standpoint,
http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/index.shtml
Keith Reedy
HTH.
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On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:

> Hmm, I get what your'e saying about an example.
> 
> The section of the getting started guide on working with text only references 
> VoiceOver navigation, it doesn't reference using standard navigation keys. 
> While this isn't specifically a VoiceOver issue, VoiceOver is still the 
> primary interface.  Being new to the Mac the small differences between it and 
> Windows are a fairly constant trip up. Perhaps adding some of these basics 
> for new users. 
> 
> 
> Related to this, are there good tutorials for using common programs with 
> VoiceOver? 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 2011-09-23, at 12:21 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
> 
>> not sure what you mean, an example would help.  as far as apple getting 
>> feedback, just write:
>> acessibility@xxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>> 
>> What's the process for passing along suggestions to Apple for documentation? 
>> I'd like to have access to information about how standard keys interact with 
>> VoiceOver. The current documentation makes assumptions about how you'll 
>> navigate that aren't necessarily the case.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> On 2011-09-22, at 12:37 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>> 
>>> actually, we should probably discuss with apple what needs to be done to 
>>> enrich the vo documentation in this regard.  When you read the vo 
>>> documentation, you get the impression that tab and space do nothing when in 
>>> fact, we can use them just like we do in other environments.  The other 
>>> commands that vo has subs for should be pointed out as well.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:33 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>> 
>>> <giggle>
>>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>> Because its not a voiceover command.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok, command up and down  arrow just worked to  go to top and bottom of 
>>>> document. Why wasn't this listed in the getting started guide with 
>>>> VoiceOver guide?
>>>> 
>>>> Ian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2011-09-22, at 12:00 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> it's a scrolling window but it might work at that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> wouldn't just pressing command up or down do the exact same thing?  It 
>>>>> works in all other edit fields so I wouldn't think Pages would be any 
>>>>> different.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> you should be able to do this by interacting using control-down arrow 
>>>>>> and then using shift-fn-control-option left for top and right for 
>>>>>> bottom.  remember, you can lock the control option with 
>>>>>> conrol-option-semi-colon and unlock with semi-colon to reduce finger 
>>>>>> strain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll have to test this in pages but if I remember, it does work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, I assume this a basic I just haven't dialled into yet. If I'm in a 
>>>>>> document in Pages, the command for going to top and bottom of document 
>>>>>> respectively, it but the actual cursor doesn't always go there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a specific way to do this in respect to interacting ro tracking 
>>>>>> or something like that I'm missing?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ian
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