[macvoiceover] Re: The $80 personal reader
- From: Keith Reedy <WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:32:08 -0400
Greg or any one,
Did we find out if this system will do the dsame with text edit?
Thanks.
Keith Reedy
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Taylor
On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
I have made what may be an important discovery. I call it the $80
personal reader. Here is the tail.
I have book looking into the Kurzweil 3000 Professional reading
software for Macintosh to see if it could be used by the blind with
VoiceOver to provide similar functionality on the mac that Kurweil
1000 does on the PC. The answer to that question appears to be yes,
by the way.
In the process of doing this testing I got a Canon CanoScan LiDE 60
flatbed scanner it cost less than $80. This scanner is powered by
the USB cable which is real nice.This scanner has four buttons on
the front that can be programmed. They come pre-configured with a
program called CanoScan Toolbox X. This program is not very
VoiceOver friendly but once you have it installed you don't really
need to worry about it much.
One of the buttons on the scanner, third in for the left, makes PDF
files and stores them in your Pictures directory under directories
named by date. There is an option in CanoScan Toolbox X to have an
external program open the PDF files after scanning I set this to
Preview. Now comes the fun part. The default settings for these PDF
files it to make them "searchable" which means that the software
runs an OCR process on each page. The results of this is a PDF file
you can READ WITH VOICEOVER.
Now there are a few minor matters. You must place the page into the
scanner with the top of the page at the front of the scanner. The
OCR doesn't seem to work with and upside down or sideways page.
CanoScan Toolbox X is just barely VoiceOver compatible. In
particular while it seems to let your review a dialog which would
let you scan several pages to a single PDF CanoScan Toolbox X will
not let you click the "Next" or "Finish" buttons with the usual
VoiceOver keys space bar. However it will place the VoiiceOver
cursor on the Next and Finished buttons. You can then use the
control-option-command F5 command to move the arrow cursor to the
VoiceOvver cursor and then shift-control-option spacebar to click
the mouse button on the button you want. The default is finished so
if you are reading only a single page just pressing return will do.
Then, provided you have preview set up as the external application
in CanoScan Toolbox X, Preview will open and you can read the
scanned pages normally with Voice Over. It works with multi-column
text such as magazines and it stores a picture perfect version of
what was scanned something Kurzeil 1000 for Windows can not do and
which is very important to dyslexics like me who want to see the
pictures as well as hear the text. Pictures seem to give it no
trouble at all. Further once you have these PDF files you can move
them to any other Mac to read or even read them on a PC with Jaws
or WindowEyes.
Mary Beth: If we could get with Canon and get a VoiceOver version
of this software put together Apple would have a very powerful tool
indeed. This solution is already nearly 80% of software that cost
thousands of dollars. If it could do page rotation it would be very
useful. I can't stress this enough this is a major find in my mind.
An $80 personal reader attached to a computer which has a built in
screen reader! At lang las the blind and dyslexics would have tool
they need at a reasonable price. I would urge Apple in the
strongest way possible to contact Canon to have the minor changes
made to make this fully functional.
Greg Kearney
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I have book looking into the Kurzweil 3000 Professional reading software for Macintosh to see if it could be used by the blind with VoiceOver to provide similar functionality on the mac that Kurweil 1000 does on the PC. The answer to that question appears to be yes, by the way.
In the process of doing this testing I got a Canon CanoScan LiDE 60 flatbed scanner it cost less than $80. This scanner is powered by the USB cable which is real nice.This scanner has four buttons on the front that can be programmed. They come pre-configured with a program called CanoScan Toolbox X. This program is not very VoiceOver friendly but once you have it installed you don't really need to worry about it much.
One of the buttons on the scanner, third in for the left, makes PDF files and stores them in your Pictures directory under directories named by date. There is an option in CanoScan Toolbox X to have an external program open the PDF files after scanning I set this to Preview. Now comes the fun part. The default settings for these PDF files it to make them "searchable" which means that the software runs an OCR process on each page. The results of this is a PDF file you can READ WITH VOICEOVER.
Now there are a few minor matters. You must place the page into the scanner with the top of the page at the front of the scanner. The OCR doesn't seem to work with and upside down or sideways page. CanoScan Toolbox X is just barely VoiceOver compatible. In particular while it seems to let your review a dialog which would let you scan several pages to a single PDF CanoScan Toolbox X will not let you click the "Next" or "Finish" buttons with the usual VoiceOver keys space bar. However it will place the VoiiceOver cursor on the Next and Finished buttons. You can then use the control-option-command F5 command to move the arrow cursor to the VoiceOvver cursor and then shift-control-option spacebar to click the mouse button on the button you want. The default is finished so if you are reading only a single page just pressing return will do.
Then, provided you have preview set up as the external application in CanoScan Toolbox X, Preview will open and you can read the scanned pages normally with Voice Over. It works with multi-column text such as magazines and it stores a picture perfect version of what was scanned something Kurzeil 1000 for Windows can not do and which is very important to dyslexics like me who want to see the pictures as well as hear the text. Pictures seem to give it no trouble at all. Further once you have these PDF files you can move them to any other Mac to read or even read them on a PC with Jaws or WindowEyes.
Mary Beth: If we could get with Canon and get a VoiceOver version of this software put together Apple would have a very powerful tool indeed. This solution is already nearly 80% of software that cost thousands of dollars. If it could do page rotation it would be very useful. I can't stress this enough this is a major find in my mind. An $80 personal reader attached to a computer which has a built in screen reader! At lang las the blind and dyslexics would have tool they need at a reasonable price. I would urge Apple in the strongest way possible to contact Canon to have the minor changes made to make this fully functional.
Greg Kearney
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