[macvoiceover] Re: The $80 personal reader
- From: "John W. Hess" <johnythehess@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:38:52 -0400
Greg, will this also work with text documents. In other words can the
utillity be set to open text edit after scanning? I hav a client who has
asked about this. Also, aparently there is now an lide 70 with greater
resolution. I have used the 60 and it's excellent, a great scanner for a
reasonable price.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Discuss" <discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "macvoiceover"
<macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Mary Beth Janes" <mjanes@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] The $80 personal reader
I have made what may be an important discovery. I call it the $80
personal reader. Here is the tail.
I have book looking into the Kurzweil 3000 Professional reading software
for Macintosh to see if it could be used by the blind with VoiceOver to
provide similar functionality on the mac that Kurweil 1000 does on the
PC. The answer to that question appears to be yes, by the way.
In the process of doing this testing I got a Canon CanoScan LiDE 60
flatbed scanner it cost less than $80. This scanner is powered by the USB
cable which is real nice.This scanner has four buttons on the front that
can be programmed. They come pre-configured with a program called
CanoScan Toolbox X. This program is not very VoiceOver friendly but once
you have it installed you don't really need to worry about it much.
One of the buttons on the scanner, third in for the left, makes PDF files
and stores them in your Pictures directory under directories named by
date. There is an option in CanoScan Toolbox X to have an external
program open the PDF files after scanning I set this to Preview. Now
comes the fun part. The default settings for these PDF files it to make
them "searchable" which means that the software runs an OCR process on
each page. The results of this is a PDF file you can READ WITH VOICEOVER.
Now there are a few minor matters. You must place the page into the
scanner with the top of the page at the front of the scanner. The OCR
doesn't seem to work with and upside down or sideways page. CanoScan
Toolbox X is just barely VoiceOver compatible. In particular while it
seems to let your review a dialog which would let you scan several pages
to a single PDF CanoScan Toolbox X will not let you click the "Next" or
"Finish" buttons with the usual VoiceOver keys space bar. However it will
place the VoiiceOver cursor on the Next and Finished buttons. You can
then use the control-option-command F5 command to move the arrow cursor
to the VoiceOvver cursor and then shift-control- option spacebar to click
the mouse button on the button you want. The default is finished so if
you are reading only a single page just pressing return will do.
Then, provided you have preview set up as the external application in
CanoScan Toolbox X, Preview will open and you can read the scanned pages
normally with Voice Over. It works with multi-column text such as
magazines and it stores a picture perfect version of what was scanned
something Kurzeil 1000 for Windows can not do and which is very important
to dyslexics like me who want to see the pictures as well as hear the
text. Pictures seem to give it no trouble at all. Further once you have
these PDF files you can move them to any other Mac to read or even read
them on a PC with Jaws or WindowEyes.
Mary Beth: If we could get with Canon and get a VoiceOver version of this
software put together Apple would have a very powerful tool indeed. This
solution is already nearly 80% of software that cost thousands of
dollars. If it could do page rotation it would be very useful. I can't
stress this enough this is a major find in my mind. An $80 personal
reader attached to a computer which has a built in screen reader! At lang
las the blind and dyslexics would have tool they need at a reasonable
price. I would urge Apple in the strongest way possible to contact Canon
to have the minor changes made to make this fully functional.
Greg Kearney
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I have book looking into the Kurzweil 3000 Professional reading software for Macintosh to see if it could be used by the blind with VoiceOver to provide similar functionality on the mac that Kurweil 1000 does on the PC. The answer to that question appears to be yes, by the way.
In the process of doing this testing I got a Canon CanoScan LiDE 60 flatbed scanner it cost less than $80. This scanner is powered by the USB cable which is real nice.This scanner has four buttons on the front that can be programmed. They come pre-configured with a program called CanoScan Toolbox X. This program is not very VoiceOver friendly but once you have it installed you don't really need to worry about it much.
One of the buttons on the scanner, third in for the left, makes PDF files and stores them in your Pictures directory under directories named by date. There is an option in CanoScan Toolbox X to have an external program open the PDF files after scanning I set this to Preview. Now comes the fun part. The default settings for these PDF files it to make them "searchable" which means that the software runs an OCR process on each page. The results of this is a PDF file you can READ WITH VOICEOVER.
Now there are a few minor matters. You must place the page into the scanner with the top of the page at the front of the scanner. The OCR doesn't seem to work with and upside down or sideways page. CanoScan Toolbox X is just barely VoiceOver compatible. In particular while it seems to let your review a dialog which would let you scan several pages to a single PDF CanoScan Toolbox X will not let you click the "Next" or "Finish" buttons with the usual VoiceOver keys space bar. However it will place the VoiiceOver cursor on the Next and Finished buttons. You can then use the control-option-command F5 command to move the arrow cursor to the VoiceOvver cursor and then shift-control- option spacebar to click the mouse button on the button you want. The default is finished so if you are reading only a single page just pressing return will do.
Then, provided you have preview set up as the external application in CanoScan Toolbox X, Preview will open and you can read the scanned pages normally with Voice Over. It works with multi-column text such as magazines and it stores a picture perfect version of what was scanned something Kurzeil 1000 for Windows can not do and which is very important to dyslexics like me who want to see the pictures as well as hear the text. Pictures seem to give it no trouble at all. Further once you have these PDF files you can move them to any other Mac to read or even read them on a PC with Jaws or WindowEyes.
Mary Beth: If we could get with Canon and get a VoiceOver version of this software put together Apple would have a very powerful tool indeed. This solution is already nearly 80% of software that cost thousands of dollars. If it could do page rotation it would be very useful. I can't stress this enough this is a major find in my mind. An $80 personal reader attached to a computer which has a built in screen reader! At lang las the blind and dyslexics would have tool they need at a reasonable price. I would urge Apple in the strongest way possible to contact Canon to have the minor changes made to make this fully functional.
Greg Kearney
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