[macvoiceover] Re: Thanks all, got it working was: Really need help with VMWare Fusion and Windows on a Mac Mini.

  • From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:09:33 +1000

Hi Mate,

Fair enough and I'm truly sorry for looking on the Mac that way.  But if
what you say is true, and there isn't any reason I can think of why it
wouldn't be then no doubt I'll be converted sooner than later smile.

I know what you mean about reliability and hence why I'm trying this mac
mini.  But I just love the windows interface reliable or not.  It is so easy
to use and even better so easy to teach non-computing people.  Put the
reliable factor into it by putting it on reliable hardware and that'll do
me.  I don't really buy into that other stuff you talk about.  Don't get me
wrong, I am not disagreeing with you, just telling you how it is for me and
if that makes me an outcast then so be it smile.  But I trust the Mac
community aren't like the Unix community who tend to shun those who have a
different point of view or outlook to them smile.

David Truong

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-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lewis Brock
Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 9:40 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Thanks all, got it working was: Really need help
with VMWare Fusion and Windows on a Mac Mini.

its a bit of a shame to look on the mac in that way.

when you invest in  apple hardware, you get security, stability, raw  
power, an operating system that delivers much more than any other OSon  
the market could ever  do, the best technical support, a cover plan  
you can rely on and so much more. using a macintosh really changes the  
way that people think of computing. none of the stress of windows  
hell, stupid driver issues etc. just a pure solid structure. not just  
that but bloomin good design. you take on a mac for its raw potential.  
not to just float windows on it and not even bother using the OS X  
system.

really spend time to think of what you are going to do with the mac,  
find solutions rather than sitting on your hands doing nothing. the  
mac is a new way of life and not a windows case decorated by an apple  
badge.



lew


On 22 Apr 2008, at 12:33, David Poehlman wrote:

> well, you are missing huge advantages but that is your choice.  I  
> didn't
> migrate to mac os due to an ego.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:26 AM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Thanks all, got it working was: Really  
> need help
> with VMWare Fusion and Windows on a Mac Mini.
>
>
> HI Mate,
>
> Fair enough too.  If you love the Mac then that's great.  My reason  
> for
> using the Mac is simple.  I've heard and believe that the Mac  
> operating
> system and its associated hardware is very reliable.  That is the  
> Windows
> weak point no doubt about that.  I don't believe any of the other bS  
> being
> said about windows as it has been great to me except for its  
> unreliability.
> So I figured get my favourite operating system interface wise along  
> with all
> of my favourite programs and put it on a reliable platform as well  
> as on a
> really small pc = Mac Mini.  NO point relearning new programs just  
> to boosts
> ones ego.  I use computers for what it can do for me and I don't see  
> the Mac
> offering me anything else more apart from reliability.
>
> David Truong
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 3:27 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Thanks all, got it working was: Really  
> need help
> with VMWare Fusion and Windows on a Mac Mini.
>
> Hi Sara,
>
> I am sure that some folks need to run Windows for one reason or
> another.  Maybe they have expensive programs that they use for work or
> something like that.  However, as for me, I run a MAC because of its
> ease of use, it does everything I need in my office and because, it
> just works.  Up until 3 years ago I had been a windows user.  I had
> used JFW and Window-eyes and before that DOS, but I had never found
> anything that has maid me more productive than the MAC.  The Voiceover
> screen reader is very nice, very quick, responsive and a pleasure to
> use, but the real pluss for me is the MAC platform.  Keyboard commands
> for the most part are the same from program to program, it does not
> have the history of crashing as with other platforms, the updates are
> really helpful and I can't think of anything that I did with windows
> that I can not do easier and faster with the MAC.  In short, it just
> works.
>
> The screenreader on the MAC is not loaded on just a few thousand MACS,
> but, millions of MACS.  I can walk in to a growing number of public
> places, press command-f5 on a MAC and go to work.
>
> The thing I try to make important to wood-be MAC users is in order to
> use the MAC affectively, is to remember that the MAC platform  is a
> different platform, a simpler platform a more user friendly platform.
>
> To those of you who are using Windows on the MAC, please take the time
> to learn the MAC.  Your life will change for the better and you will
> be glad that it did.
>
> Keith Reedy
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2008, at 11:51 PM, Sara wrote:
>
>> I've been following this discussion and am glad you got it working.
>> I don't know how to do that so I couldn't offer advice but it's
>> interesting to me that people run Windows on a Mac. I never thought
>> about the machine being nice and small and the hardware being really
>> good and that was why people wanted to put Windows on it. I had
>> always assumed people bought Macs to escape from Windows but I guess
>> that is not always true.
>> I don't really understand this virtual stuff. Is Windows really
>> there? smile
>> Just kidding, I guess it is there, but being run by another program
>> or something?
>> Please keep the interesting topics coming!
>> Sara
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Truong"
<bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>
>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:22 PM
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Thanks all, got it working was: Really need
>> help with VMWare Fusion and Windows on a Mac Mini.
>>
>>
>>> HI Cheryl,
>>>
>>> Well, after reading your message and taking a lot of your advice, I
>>> have the
>>> VMWare playing ball and now have windows on my Mac Mini.  Thank
>>> Christ is
>>> all I can say.  I really appreciated those suggestions you gave me
>>> to check
>>> on especially regarding how long the installation of windows can
>>> take.  It
>>> took an hour and a bit for mine.  Also, I did as you suggested, as
>>> soon as I
>>> was sure Windows had installed, I did the command+g and then typed
>>> in my
>>> password.  However, I sort've did it in blind faith as I wasn't
>>> given any
>>> feedback whether I was on the right field or not but never mind it
>>> worked.
>>> I knew though that you had succeeded so I thought it should be
>>> right and it
>>> was.  I managed to get narrator going and Now it's working great.
>>> I have my
>>> screen reader on there and have windows configured to how I like
>>> it.  Just
>>> about to install some programs on it.  You know I am so happy now
>>> that I can
>>> use windows on such a small machine and I know the apple hardware
>>> is great
>>> even if the os isn't my cup of tea.  So thanks to you and all of
>>> you who
>>> helped in getting me the best of both worlds smile.
>>>
>>> David Truong
>>>
>>> EMail and Messenger:
>>> davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Skype:  blindboxer1967
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl  
>>> Homiak
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 10:31 AM
>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Really need help with VMWare Fusion and
>>> Windows
>>> on a Mac Mini.
>>>
>>> Ok, here are things to check.
>>>
>>> First of all, my installation has been known to take longer than
>>> half an
>>> hour; I'd leave it for an hour to be safe.
>>>
>>> Second, you don't say whether you logged in with your password
>>> before trying
>>>
>>> to install vmware tools. What I do is leave the cd in when I think
>>> it's done
>>>
>>> and do cmd-g to direct input inside the virtual machine and type my
>>> password
>>>
>>> and hit enter. If it's installed and your sound is working, you
>>> should hear
>>> the xp startup music. then I go into the menus and do "install
>>> vmware tools"
>>>
>>> or "up[date vmware tools" whichever it says. You'll get a dialog to
>>> confirm
>>> you want to do that and later if you go back that same menu item  
>>> says
>>> "cancel vmware tols installation" but it never changes. Just leave
>>> it for a
>>> few minutes and then restart with cmd-u r (cmd is the windows key).
>>>
>>> Third, before trying to get narrator up or even before trying to
>>> type your
>>> password and start, did you use vokeys and check whether sound is
>>> connected
>>> and whether whatever speakers you are using are connected?
>>>
>>> Sorry, I'm not getting this in order, but I thought the virtual
>>> machine
>>> could only do 20GB; your post says you are changing it to 100gb.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, how much memory do you have; do you have a gb of memory to
>>> give and
>>> still have enough for macosx.
>>>
>>> Those are the things I can think of offhand. Also, Narrator has this
>>> annoying dialog the first time it starts up so if you have a
>>> talking install
>>>
>>> cd for jaws or windoweyes I'd just put that in, but I'd do that  
>>> after
>>> starting so you know you can hear the startup music and your sound  
>>> is
>>> working, and I'd do it after the vmware tools install and restart,
>>> when you
>>> should again hear the startup music but remember you'll have to
>>> give it a
>>> minute or two for the restart and then enter your password if you
>>> have one;
>>> it won't start up without your password.
>>>
>>> If you don't think you've installed correctly, I'd just remove the
>>> whole
>>> Virtual Machines directory from you Documents directory if you
>>> don't have
>>> any other virtual machines there and start over.
>>>
>>> It really does work well once you get it going; I had a little
>>> trouble the
>>> first time but I reinstalled recently and it went much more  
>>> smoothly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> "Where your treasure is,
>>> there will your heart be also."
>>>
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