[macvoiceover] Re: Text atributes, they work.

Ha! I was just going to suggest this and you beat me to it!
Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Reedy" <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 12:37 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Text atributes, they work.


Russell,

things will be more clear when you get the new cat.

I can see where we are running in to confusion here, maybe it would be a good idea at least for a while to put the system we are running in the subject line, forinstants, "text atributes in Leopard". Lets give that a try.

Keith Reedy



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On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi Russell

Don't worry. lol. They are telling you stuff thats in snow leopard. Your not loosing your mind.
On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

Hmmm, that's how I'm opening the utilities. I see a "General" as the first item in the table, but the only things there are the login greeting and what to do when portable preferences are detected. Under verbosity, i only get the two tabs, text and announcements. Don't know what's going on here!

Russell
On 6-Sep-09, at 9:07 PM, Dan wrote:

Hello,
The general tab is only available if you open the VoiceOver utility with VO-F8.
On Sep 6, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

Hi Dan, David & all,

I'm not seeing a general tab under verbosity, only a text tab and an Announcements tab. You guys must be talking about Snow Leopard, which, of course, I don't have yet! <smile>

I'll just set text attributes change to "do nothing" till my SL arrives.

Thanks,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:05 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Text atributes, they work.

Hello,
You need to go to the VoiceOver menu and select verbosity and under
the general tab, select the medium pop-up option. You won't find  this
when using the VO-V command.
HTH
Dan
On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:51 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

hmm.  can't remember, know it's in sl though.

On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

Hmmm!  I searched through the verbosity settings and can't seem to
find where to do this?

Thanks,

Russell
On 6-Sep-09, at 3:16 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

set verbosity to medium.

On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

Hey Keith,

I just tried this and it works quite well.  When  a word is  italic
VO says "Italic" and when it  finished reading the word, it says,
"plain".  The only problem is now as I am typing this email, the
font attributes are constantly being read to me, even though
they're not changing.  I keep hearing, "12 point Helvetica  black on
black"  This is very annoying.  Is this fixed in SL?

Thanks,

Russell
On 6-Sep-09, at 2:41 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:

Hi Russell,

Yes this works quite well in textedit.
Do the following,
In verbosity, click on the text tab.
Next, VO-right arrow to where it says, when text atributes  change
and with the pop up button select, speak atribute.

It will give you lots of information about your document.

You can open word files in TextEdit.

Keith Reedy
God gives His best to those who leave the Choice with Him.
J Hudson Taylor.

On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:44 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:

does the new attributes not work guys? I had it switched on and
it was annoying me during using syrinx so I haven't used it.

On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:27 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:

Hi Sara,

I've had limited success with the word processor in Open
Office.  The reason I say limited is that I haven't found a  way
to get VO to tell me whether text is formatted as bold,  italic,
or underlined, or whether text has a heading style.  I did the
minutes for a meeting using Open Office, but then had to take
the document to my Windows machine so that I could check the
formatting.  So, yes I guess you're right about needing a
Windows machine to do word processing!  Hope that this will  not
always be the case. (fingers crossed)  <smile>

Russell


On 2-Sep-09, at 8:51 PM, Sara wrote:

Hi Russell.
What do you use for word processing?
I still have to use Windows for that.
Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk"
<rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx

To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: new member wondering about
switching from Windows XP pro to mac, with a billion  questions.


Hey May!  I'm glad to hear you're making the switch.  I  bought
an iMac  in early August and absolutely love it!  There are
some things I am  not able to do on the Mac yet, though,  like
embossing on my Braille  Blazer, working with databases,
although someone said there is a  database app, Bento, I
think, that is supposed to be accessible... will try it later.

May, I don't think you will regret switching, just keep a
Windows  machine around until you're able to do all you need
on the Mac.

HTH

Russell
On 2-Sep-09, at 2:23 PM, May and Wynter wrote:

Hi everyone, my name is May and I am waiting for my first
Macbook.   I have been a windows user forever so looking
forward to the new  learning experience.

I have an IPhone my first apple product and absolutely love
it.  It  took me only 24 hours to figure out all I needed  to
know to use it  to my satisfaction.

Now ready for the bigger challenge of learning the  computer,
smile.

May, it's time for school and goalball
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader"
<cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: new member wondering about
switching  from Windows XP pro to mac, with a billion
questions.


Keith's word is definitely good.  I never thought I would
switch  from JAWS.  I got a Mac for a single contract and
now Macs and  other Apple products are in so many places
around my house that we  look like an auxiliary Apple  store
(without the goofy t-shirts).

If you choose the switch, jump in with both feet, ask
questions  and enjoy the goodies.

cdh
On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:

Hi Jim and welcome,

I think what folks are trying to say is, its  different.  I
came  from Windows, using JFW and Window-Eyes and DOS
before that.

The learning curve is not steep, the Mac is fast and I  can
do  more with a MAC than I could have imagined.

I work in an office, I play around on the web, I am a
musition, I record and I do it all with the MAC and
Voiceover.

I think that folks want you to know that it is different
and yes  it is worth it to learn it.

Play around with a MAC, don't just take my word for it,
but, my  word is good.

Keith Reedy God gives His best to those who leave the
Choice with  Him.
J Hudson Taylor.

On Sep 2, 2009, at 12:05 PM, jim rawls wrote:

Marie, I'm not opposed to forgetting the windows  platform.
My question is, is it worth forgetting? Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie Howarth
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: new member wondering about
switching from Windows XP pro to mac, with a billion
questions.

I do second this notion Chantelle, forgetting the  windows
platform is essential when learning the mac. I bet those
of us  who forgot it learned the mac a lot easier than
those who could  not let go of windows for one reason or
another. it is  definitely easier to  forget it, but for
some easier said than  done. :)

On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:

Hi, Jim,
I am going to tell you right now that you need to  forget
all  that you know about windows when it comes to using
your mac.
Mac is very different from windows in the way that the
screen   reads things, and the way you navigate the
screen is different.
With the mac, you must interact with tables and other
things by hitting control option shift down arrow.
Stop interacting by hitting control option shift up arrow.
Hth,
Chantel.
On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:39 AM, jim rawls wrote:

Hi all,
My name is Jim Rawls, from Southern California, and my
friend Peggy Fleischer,says I need to switch to the  Mac.
So, since I   have been a windows user for 8 years, is
the change hard? Is  the relearning all the stuff I  have
to learn easy, and where  can I  get a list of the
commands I need with voice over?
my skype contact is
jim332, and my email is
jazzpiano@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I would appreciate all the help you can offer.
Thanks in advance.
Jim





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