[macvoiceover] Re: Strange VO behavior in menus with items having sub-menus

  • From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:55:14 -0600

Hi Marcy & all,

I was thinking exactly the same thing. I don't use VO keys at all in the menus, but then I'm a new Mac user and don't yet understand all the ins and outs of this new OS! <grin> Someone mentioned something about cursor tracking being the reason for using VO keys in the menus, but I don't know why you'd need that either. So much to learn! <smile>

Russell
On 30-Aug-09, at 4:50 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:

Hi, everyone,
I'm a bit confused here. When I go into the menu bar, for example, I simply use the arrow keys without vo. I can move across the menu bar, or down any category. Then, I can arrow right into any submenu and then arrow down to its contents.
I'm not sure where the vo keys come into this.  Marcy
On Aug 30, 2009, at 1:01 AM, annelie robledo wrote:


Hello I am also having the same problem can't access any of my menu items once I go into a submenu. Hope someone can help. On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:16 PM, Ron J. wrote:

Hi everyone,

Got the new kitty installed on Friday, late in the afternoon. All seemed to go well, but I've encountered a strange problem when I access menus using VO.

I opted for doing the upgrade, rather than the clean install, figuring everything should function normally. Prior to upgrading, I did do a permissions repair, and my most up-to-date version of Leopard was 10.5.8.

When I'm in the Apple menu, for example, I can use VO-Up/Down to arrow through the menu and all is well. When I reach "Dock", which has a sub-menu, VO says, "Dock Dock, sub-menu, 6 items". Continuing to use VO-Up/Down simply gets me "Dock Dock, sub-menu, 6 items". It appears that I'm stuck on that menu item. Now, if I simply use the arrow keys, without the VO keys, I can actually navigate the sub-menu of the Dock menu item under the Apple menu. If I Left-arrow, I hear nothing but if I VO-arrow up or down, it appears that I'm back at the top of the menu. If I bring up the Apple menu, using VO, then simply use the arrow keys, all things seem to work fine.

This behavior seems to be present in all menus - application, contextual, etc, where there are menu items which have sub-menus. It appears that I even seem to have this problem with the popup menus in the VO utility, and I'm sure it happens in other places.

Did a clean install of SL on a small drive I have, and all things seem to function normally - this only seems to happen on my MacBook, and also on my friend's Mac Mini - we both use our computers completely differently but we must have something in common which is causing the issues I've described.

Anyone have any thoughts, ideas, suggestions, etc? Any help will be greatly appreciated!

        If necessary, please feel free to contact me, off-list.

Take care,

Ron J.


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