[macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac mini already running leopard?
- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:32:00 -0400
what is not to understand is that you can lock down windows.
I've been running various computers with windows for over 15 years and never
had a meltdown like this. If this is as serious as you suggest and I am not
saying it's not, it's being well unpublicized. The language is over my
head.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac
mini already running leopard?
what is not to understand david? the simplicity is this
because of the way in which windows as an operating system is
structured, coded and packaged, it is open to attacks, code violations
and more. have you ever been the victim of a malicious windows system
hack that has done fatal damage forcing a disk replacement, even
worse a total computer replacement?
a hacker can target the zero sector of the drive when windows is
breached, perform a series of attacks and string instructions which
cannot be stopped. then thats it. furthermore a hacker can directly
access in most cases the mainboard itself and change controls. even
lock you out completely. turn off heatsync etc. dangerous stuff. so it
is not something I could ever recommend having bootcamp to run windows
all the time. even though the hardware logic board is different to a
windows machine it can still be attacked by malicious hackers. this
can be researched through computer forensics studies
lew
running this system however in VM ware is safer as I say. the
operating system in question creates a virtual partition which can be
destroyed if infected etc and it will not harm the system due to the
architecture of VM Ware Fusion. all hardware including the logic board
is emulated but at the same time utilised directly. so its safer in VM
Ware.
simple as
I won't present my personal views on windows on a mac as it will spark
off another discussion lol
lew
On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:13, David Poehlman wrote:
> Dunnno, I've seen lots of people declairing issues with fusion. It
> seems
> less streightforward to setup and use than bootcamp and the biggest
> issues
> I've seen with bootcamp are those of not following the instructions
> properly. I don't understand your answer about security below.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:09 AM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on
> a mac
> mini already running leopard?
>
>
> think about this logically. you install windows directly to boot camp
> as a direct partition to the hard drive. this then directly relies on
> all hardware ports. therefore if you were to be hacked etc the system
> can be compromised. doing this in VMWARE does not have this risk as
> all hardware is protected and emulative. having had experience with VM
> Ware products etc you notice a difference straight away.
>
> lew
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:05, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>> how is fusion more secure than bootcamp?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lewis Brock" <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:11 AM
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on
>> a mac
>> mini already running leopard?
>>
>>
>> I would highly recommend that you use a product called VMWare fusion
>> which is a mac application to allow windows and other operating
>> systems to run as virtual machines. it is easy to deal with and is
>> more secure than mounting on a bootcamp volume. it is safer and
>> should anything go wrong with the volume, simply rebuild it. doing
>> things through bootcamp is something I advise against as you could
>> accidently destroy the main macintosh volume declaring you mac
>> useless. so then using the restore media that came with your mac.
>>
>> there are tutorials to be found on main menu at ACB radio.
>>
>> lew
>>
>>
>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 14:04, vashaun jones wrote:
>>
>>> Read the manual! Just joking...are you wanting to use Bootcamp or
>>> run it virtually?
>>> On Apr 20, 2008, at 8:57 AM, David Truong wrote:
>>>
>>>> HI Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I really want to learn how to install windows xp pro sp2 onto my
>>>> Mac Mini
>>>> which has Leopard already installed on it. My mac mini is an Intel
>>>> based
>>>> model. If you can give me some serious answers or any proper links
>>>> to
>>>> information where one can read up on how to achieve this, that
>>>> would be much
>>>> appreciated. However, if you intend to reply with sarcastic and
>>>> unhelpful
>>>> messages like read the manual etc, don't bother replying as I won't
>>>> be
>>>> bothered wasting my time reading them. Thanks in advance to those
>>>> of you
>>>> who are truly interested in helping.
>>>>
>>>> David Truong
>>>>
>>>> EMail and Messenger:
>>>> davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Skype: blindboxer1967
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vashaun
>>>> jones
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 20 April 2008 10:06 PM
>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Wakoopa, nice way to share our software
>>>>
>>>> This is great but because top secret software is always being
>>>> tested
>>>> on my end I don't think I could join. When I buy another Mac I'll
>>>> get
>>>> on board because all I do is test software, so I would have allot
>>>> to
>>>> contribute. Great find!
>>>> On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Orin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you guys are looking for nice fun community to brag about what
>>>>> your friends use on a daily bases, what they've started using,
>>>>> what
>>>>> they're most used software is, etc. Check out Wakoopa, a totally
>>>>> accessible socal software network at http://www.wakoopa.com. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> created a blind mac users team called "Mac Voiceover." Teams are a
>>>>> way for a group to get together, us, as Mac users, for example,
>>>>> and
>>>>> we have a feed on people started using, and at the top of the page
>>>>> we have the most used/hot applications. Best of all there are
>>>>> widgets now that you can post on your blog or what have you so
>>>>> everyone can see what you are doing at the present moment on the
>>>>> Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> After signing up, you will be required to download a small
>>>>> application which tracks what you are doing. If, for example, you
>>>>> are in a beta program, don't forget to shut this down before
>>>>> opening
>>>>> it, as you will share it with the world (I don't know if there is
>>>>> any way to control what you share). Otherwise, after you enter
>>>>> your
>>>>> username and password, simply start doing daily things and you'll
>>>>> see a programs list start to build up in your profile. After you
>>>>> sign up and get the tracker set up, be sure to join the Mac
>>>>> Voiceover team by going to http://www.wakoopa.com/teams/
>>>>> macvoiceover
>>>>> and join it so we get more software than mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and hope to see some new members and comments on the
>>>>> messages part of the page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Orin
>>>>> orin.angi@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> MSN: joshuatubbs1@xxxxxxx
>>>>> Skype: orin1112
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you like mudding? To discuss related topics, go here.
>>>> http://www.tbmic.jiglu.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you like audio books? Would you like to hear them with
>>>>> enritching
>>>>> sound, music and acting? Stop reading books from the NLS, and go
>>>>> to
>>>> http://www.graphicaudio.net
>>>>> , you'll be glad you did. I don't work there, but I love them so
>>>>> much I have to advertise them in every email I send.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> music
>>
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> Totally blind musician and composer of 21st century synth orchestral
> music
>
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