[macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac mini already running leopard?
- From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:41:05 +1000
Hi Dave,
Fair enough mate. I'll take your word for it. As you say, I am
inexperienced with mac and voiceover. Oh BTW, I've been using Windows for
15 years as well. Just on another note, when you ran boot camp and were
setting up windows, were you able to get speech access to windows setup via
either voiceover or windows narrator etc?
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Monday, 21 April 2008 9:37 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac
mini already running leopard?
David,
Much of what you say is reflective of lack of experience and an unpracticed
mind set with Mac os. We've discussed this issue at length on this list and
on the discuss list at:
http://www.macvisionaries.com
someone can tell you where the foll archives of that list are located.
You may know that I have used windows for over 15 years and I and many
others have found the User interface of the Mac and VoiceOver to be much
less daunting while at the same time, fuller than the windows user
interface. VoiceOver was real when it was released and it has gone beyond
what it was then so While you have your personal experiences, sharing your
opinion here shows a lack of understanding of the reality of the current
situation if it was ever reality. Suspending what is known about using a
computer for the most part is one thing which is required when beginning
with the Mac. It is possible to blend what you know of computer use to some
extent but not at first.
You do not have to use three keys do do things. you do have to do things
differently, but the differences are not as huge as they may seem and using
the Mac becomes second nature much more quickly than using windows does.
Nothing is for everyone but an honest effort to evaluate and learn the Mac
has brought many to the conclusion that it is superior to windows or at
least more comfortable to use than you state below.
I wish you good luck and happy studying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac
mini already running leopard?
Hi Dave,
Thanks for those links. That's what I'm looking for as well. This is only
my own opinion and on limited use of the Mac OS with Voice-over but I really
need windows smile. I'm not impressed with the way Voiceover does things.
As I said to a mate, at the moment, voiceover is like Narrator on severe
drugs. However, I do like the concept of a screen reader built into an
operating system which is one major reason why I wanted to give the mac and
Voiceover a go. I also like the design of the Mac Mini so I don't want to
throw away the hardware. I guess I just want Windows on a mac mini hence
why I'm asking about Windows on a Mac. When Voiceover matures a bit more
then I might give it some serious consideration as a major screen reader in
our household but at the moment, pressing 3 keys together to do basic
screen reading commands isn't my cup of tea smile. Neither is having to
shall we say bring focus to most basic areas of the screen (interact mode)
and then releasing it is something I am not use to with Jaws or Wineyes and
is something I shouldn't have to get use to with decent screen reader
access. That's just a few things. Again that is only my opinion and is no
means a criticism of anyone else.
David Truong
EMail and Messenger:
davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: blindboxer1967
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Monday, 21 April 2008 1:10 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac
mini already running leopard?
Hi David,
There is a lot on this already I am afraid and I cannot cover it all from
memory and would have to look it up. Your best bet in all seriousness is to
look at the sites with tutorials and guides such as:
http://www.lioncourt.com
http://www.screenlessswitchers.com
and:
http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
I may not have all the uris correct, but I hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Serious answers on how to get Windows on a mac mini
already running leopard?
HI Guys,
I really want to learn how to install windows xp pro sp2 onto my Mac Mini
which has Leopard already installed on it. My mac mini is an Intel based
model. If you can give me some serious answers or any proper links to
information where one can read up on how to achieve this, that would be much
appreciated. However, if you intend to reply with sarcastic and unhelpful
messages like read the manual etc, don't bother replying as I won't be
bothered wasting my time reading them. Thanks in advance to those of you
who are truly interested in helping.
David Truong
EMail and Messenger:
davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: blindboxer1967
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vashaun jones
Sent: Sunday, 20 April 2008 10:06 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Wakoopa, nice way to share our software
This is great but because top secret software is always being tested
on my end I don't think I could join. When I buy another Mac I'll get
on board because all I do is test software, so I would have allot to
contribute. Great find!
On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Orin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If you guys are looking for nice fun community to brag about what
> your friends use on a daily bases, what they've started using, what
> they're most used software is, etc. Check out Wakoopa, a totally
> accessible socal software network at http://www.wakoopa.com. I have
> created a blind mac users team called "Mac Voiceover." Teams are a
> way for a group to get together, us, as Mac users, for example, and
> we have a feed on people started using, and at the top of the page
> we have the most used/hot applications. Best of all there are
> widgets now that you can post on your blog or what have you so
> everyone can see what you are doing at the present moment on the Mac.
>
> After signing up, you will be required to download a small
> application which tracks what you are doing. If, for example, you
> are in a beta program, don't forget to shut this down before opening
> it, as you will share it with the world (I don't know if there is
> any way to control what you share). Otherwise, after you enter your
> username and password, simply start doing daily things and you'll
> see a programs list start to build up in your profile. After you
> sign up and get the tracker set up, be sure to join the Mac
> Voiceover team by going to http://www.wakoopa.com/teams/macvoiceover
> and join it so we get more software than mine.
>
> Thanks, and hope to see some new members and comments on the
> messages part of the page.
>
>
> Orin
> orin.angi@xxxxxxxxx
> MSN: joshuatubbs1@xxxxxxx
> Skype: orin1112
>
> Do you like mudding? To discuss related topics, go here.
http://www.tbmic.jiglu.com
>
> Do you like audio books? Would you like to hear them with enritching
> sound, music and acting? Stop reading books from the NLS, and go to
http://www.graphicaudio.net
> , you'll be glad you did. I don't work there, but I love them so
> much I have to advertise them in every email I send.
>
>
>
>
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